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    RAV 4 rotor removal?

    A Co-worker has a 2007 RAV 4, front-wheel-drive.

    She wanted to replace the front brake rotors, but can't remove the old ones. She got the calipers off OK, but there is some sort of fastener preventing the removal of the rotors.

    Anybody know what this is, and what tools are required?
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    The photos at US Auto Force of the 2007 replacement rotor only show the two threaded 8mm holes used to assist removal. (Yeah, Rock Auto has good photos too, but I had USAF's page open) I have always run bolts into them to help press the rotor loose.

    In this video of brake service on a 2002, they use a bolt style puller (AKA harmonic balancer puller) to pop the rotor loose (at about 5:55-ish). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Cbn3CaNNo

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    an impact screw driver is the tool she will need, but I would guess that won't work, I thinking that there is some drilling in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff (The Alignment Guy) View Post
    The photos at US Auto Force of the 2007 replacement rotor only show the two threaded 8mm holes used to assist removal. (Yeah, Rock Auto has good photos too, but I had USAF's page open) I have always run bolts into them to help press the rotor loose.

    In this video of brake service on a 2002, they use a bolt style puller (AKA harmonic balancer puller) to pop the rotor loose (at about 5:55-ish). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Cbn3CaNNo

    That's what I know this time of day: PC (Pre Coffee).

    Jeff
    Any possibility that a couple of 8mm bolts in those holes will push off the rotor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phile View Post
    Any possibility that a couple of 8mm bolts in those holes will push off the rotor?
    Yep, having done the brakes on the same year Rav, there's nothing holding the rotor on, it's just rusted to the hub. Bang on it or use the holes as mentioned previously.
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    Honda's tend to put 2 little phillips screws thru the rotors to hold them in place. Once rusted, they are PITA to remove. I've done the job a half dozen times, and I drill the head off the screw before even trying to remove them. It takes about ~10 seconds per screw and saves a lot of time over trying to heat and remove.

    My understanding is they do not need to be replaced (I know I never replace them). The following was explained "The phillips screw is there because the rotor supplier machines the rotor on the hub, then sends it to Honda for assembly to the knuckle. They do not need to be replaced once removed." Once the caliper is in place, the rotor can wiggle, but never fall off. Once the wheel is in place, the rotor is fully secure.

    If you do want to try to unscrew them, an impact screw driver is key. Without it, they will strip very easily:
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    Here is the stubborn screw I always drill out:

    (Not sure about Rav 4's, but they are definitely on Preludes, Accords, Civics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marks_lude View Post
    Here is the stubborn screw I always drill out:

    (Not sure about Rav 4's, but they are definitely on Preludes, Accords, Civics.
    Use a LEFT-handed drill and it may unscrew itself. A conventional right-handed drill will tighten it.
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    "Any possibility that a couple of 8mm bolts in those holes will push off the rotor?"

    Todd already answered this, but yeah, that's what I do. I put a little pressure on it with the bolts and then give it a little penetrant and hammer work as needed. Maybe keep the bolts you use for this in a separate place so you don't use them for something else. At least that's what I do.

    A hammer driven impact driver like Josh mentioned is a great tool to have. Mine has a 1/2 drive bit holder that can be used with the buzz gun bit mentioned in the last paragraph.

    In a pinch, you can put a 1/4" drive screw driver bit in a socket, put that on an extension, and whap on it with a hammer to get some of these loose. I do this over just hitting the end of a regular screw driver in order to have an all metal path between the hammer blow and the screw head.

    If you have a pistol type air hammer, a square drive hammer bit is magic for removing stuck fasteners like snapped wheel nuts from Miatas: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thealig...57603608874815 Quick connect safety retainer removed from buzz gun because it interfered with the tool bit. I should have installed the original retainer spring to do this job. Sometimes speed wins over proper procedure.

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    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by phile View Post
    Any possibility that a couple of 8mm bolts in those holes will push off the rotor?
    I have a 2003 RAV4, yes, it is possible, but if it's rusted like mine after 140,000 miles and your banging with a hammer soaking with rust remover/penetrant isn't high enough to your turn ratio, you will crack the rotor like I did

    the good news there is that then you can just break it off and buy a new one, which was $40

    and considering it took about 3 hours to remove the rotor on my Mazda using the same procedure without breaking, I would be tempted to just break it off if I had to do it again

    and there is a RAV4 forum that you might get better suggestions http://www.rav4world.com/forums/79-r...6-2012-models/

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