SCCA Sanctioned Races at BIR - September 8/9 2007

[MNbiker]

From the SCCA LOL Yahoo group:

SCCA Sanctioned Races at BIR - September 8/9 2007 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sccalol/message/1346;_ylc=X3oDMTJxYWg4NnJtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElk AzY1NjM3NjUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY2NDkxBG1zZ0lkAzEzND YEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE3MDg2MzA1MA--)

Wed Feb 7, 2007 6:14 am (PST)

Land O' Lakes Region would like to announce plans to
hold an SCCA sanctioned double Regional Road Race at
Brainerd International Raceway.

Mark you calenders for the weekend of September 8/9
2007.

The weekend will include all classes of regional
racing plus lapping and time trials.

More information will be relayed as it becomes
available.

To add and read club member's comments please visit
the LOL/SSAC Discussion Forum:

http://snowstates.com/scca_lol/index.php (http://snowstates.com/scca_lol/index.php)

Tom Fuehrer

[phile]

From the SCCA LOL Yahoo group:

SCCA Sanctioned Races at BIR - September 8/9 2007 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sccalol/message/1346;_ylc=X3oDMTJxYWg4NnJtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElk AzY1NjM3NjUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY2NDkxBG1zZ0lkAzEzND YEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE3MDg2MzA1MA--)

Wed Feb 7, 2007 6:14 am (PST)

Land O' Lakes Region would like to announce plans to
hold an SCCA sanctioned double Regional Road Race at
Brainerd International Raceway.

Mark you calenders for the weekend of September 8/9
2007.

The weekend will include all classes of regional
racing plus lapping and time trials.

More information will be relayed as it becomes
available.

To add and read club member's comments please visit
the LOL/SSAC Discussion Forum:

http://snowstates.com/scca_lol/index.php (http://snowstates.com/scca_lol/index.php)

Tom Fuehrer


What, and miss Wheels & Wings and an autocross?

I wonder how come it was not scheduled for their traditional Labor Day weekend.

[LSE Performance]

So would this event be open to SCCA members only?

I am thinking I want to attempt to try to turn the stealth this season as well. I think with the power turned down, some R-compound rubber, and a good alignment it could be somewhat competitive. (or atleast ryan is telling me).
I know I would need a "larger" track though.

[weidnerpaul]

So would this event be open to SCCA members only?

I am thinking I want to attempt to try to turn the stealth this season as well. I think with the power turned down, some R-compound rubber, and a good alignment it could be somewhat competitive. (or atleast ryan is telling me).
I know I would need a "larger" track though.

Larger as in 5,000 foot straight? :lol:

They have lapping so at the least you could do that. Not sure about Time Trials but the racing requires licensening plus safety equip like fuel cell... Not sure what you/your car has for that...

Also don't know if SCCA membership is needed for the trials/lapping...

(Guess I don't know much huh?)

[rdub]

looks like a REAL event to me
so you can't just show up and run,no matter how much you beg
need a car(full SCCA rulebook prepped with a log book)....pass liscensing....drivers suit....you know ..a Real SCCA road race
yay.....too bad about the dates
(can we dance wiff yo dates)

[Rex Jr]

I know I would need a "larger" track though.

BIR is 4.1 miles long with a mile-long straight and and a turn-1 that few cars need to even lift for. You're probably not going to find much larger of a road course in North America.

[Rex Jr]

I wonder how come it was not scheduled for their traditional Labor Day weekend.

Traditional? Unless I'm mistaken it's been almost ten years since the SCCA sanctioned an event at BIR. When I attended the Jack Pine Sprints in '96 I believe it was well after Labor Day. It was damn cold for mid-Sept. that year, I remember that much.

EDIT: Ok, so it wasn't that long ago I guess. It was '99 the last time I was there for the Jack Pine Sprints. And, it was Labor Day weekend that year. OK, I'll just keep quiet now.

[Darryl]

BIR is 4.1 miles long with a mile-long straight and and a turn-1 that few cars need to even lift for. You're probably not going to find much larger of a road course in North America.

BIR is 3 miles long... Road America is 4...

[Rex Jr]

BIR is 3 miles long... Road America is 4...

Right, my mistake.

[LSE Performance]

BIR is 4.1 miles long with a mile-long straight and and a turn-1 that few cars need to even lift for. You're probably not going to find much larger of a road course in North America.

I bet on C-16 I need to lift for turn 1, probably hit the brakes hard.

I was joking about needing a "longer" track, just we are thinking a auto-x wouldn't be to smart without some serious rubber.

Still this looks like a great event, unfortunally alot of NHRA and SCCA rules do not lap over, I'll have to find a more casual BIR track day.

[phile]

I bet on C-16 I need to lift for turn 1, probably hit the brakes hard.

There are very few racing cars in the world that can't take One at BIR wide open. I don't think that any of them need to hit the brakes hard for One.

I will submit that any car which would have to hit the brakes hard for One would be pretty-much by definition not a competent car for high-speed cornering on any course.

Just to give me some sort of perspective, what MPH do you imagine you would enter One at if you didn't brake?

If you are looking for a place at BIR where you will need to hit the brakes hard, I suggest the entrance to Three. Fortunately, you've been cooling those brakes since Ten.

[Darryl]

Back in the late 70's I attended a few of the Camel GT races at BIR... Most of the top drivers were going thru corner 1 at 200 / 203 MPH... On exit they would lift going into two then brake hard for corner 3... Danny Ongais blew a tire in the middle of turn one then disappeared in a cloud of dust... The car was destroyed; he was back on course for the next practice session... Peter Gregg won both time I went, 78' and 79'... Great driver...

I'm starting to sound like Phil, old race stories...

Sorry about the picture of a picture...

[ricksellner]

My car may or may not top out around 180 on any given day but it wouldn't handle cornering at that speed.That maybe the case with other cars that are not built entirely for racing.So depending on suspension set braking hard in corner one my be necessary.Although Ive never been to bir road course id like to someday to test that theory.

[phile]

My car may or may not top out around 180 on any given day but it wouldn't handle cornering at that speed.That maybe the case with other cars that are not built entirely for racing.So depending on suspension set braking hard in corner one my be necessary.Although Ive never been to bir road course id like to someday to test that theory.

Don't take this to the bank, but with stickies and the chassis set for more understeer than your ideal autocross setup, I think you could take One wide open and pull back to 140 or something for Two. Of course you will really have to throw out the anchor for Three.

I think full-bore Trans-Am cars with their huge slicks took both One and Two wide open.

[Cman]

I bet on C-16 I need to lift for turn 1, probably hit the brakes hard.

I was joking about needing a "longer" track, just we are thinking a auto-x wouldn't be to smart without some serious rubber.

Still this looks like a great event, unfortunally alot of NHRA and SCCA rules do not lap over, I'll have to find a more casual BIR track day.

Josh,

I recommend the Suburban Corvettes days, May 23, Aug 23, and Sept 13. A low key atmosphere and about 5 hours track time.

Steve

[Cman]

There are very few racing cars in the world that can't take One at BIR wide open. I don't think that any of them need to hit the brakes hard for One.

I will submit that any car which would have to hit the brakes hard for One would be pretty-much by definition not a competent car for high-speed cornering on any course.

Just to give me some sort of perspective, what MPH do you imagine you would enter One at if you didn't brake?

If you are looking for a place at BIR where you will need to hit the brakes hard, I suggest the entrance to Three. Fortunately, you've been cooling those brakes since Ten.


There may be few racing cars in the world that can't take T1 full out with pro drivers but we are speaking of street cars, amatuer drivers at an HPDE. Not that many of us with good P/W ratioes take T1 flat. Sure it can be done but you need to have just the right line or you may run out of asphalt at track out. Seen that happen more than once. My little Miata is cabable of 135+ through one but I usually lift cuz it needs to get me back home at the end of the day. Actually T2 is the tricky one and generally requires some braking by any HPDE driver in a higher powered car.

Not such a good idea to be telling people what their car and thier driving limits are......we are just out there for fun after all and need to find those limits on our own to be safe.

Steve

[Cman]

I think full-bore Trans-Am cars with their huge slicks took both One and Two wide open.

Don't have the data in front of me but I've been told that Mark Donahue had the fastest qualifying time for the 197X T/A race at BIR with a 2:01. Lots of HPDE drivers are going much faster than that with nearly stock street cars. The world changes and our cars have an incredible capability that must be respected. BIR ain't no AX.

Steve

[MacDubois]

I've heard of street cars going through 1 at over 180. I think we were doing 130ish in my folks' 993 tip. There is enough of a bank that nearly any car on decent rubber should be fine through 1. It just comes down to nerves, I can't think of many courses with less run-off room after a mile long straight.

Turn 2 is really the fun one, same radius but no bank...even in my little rental spec racer ford I was puckered so tight they couldn't have removed me from the seaet with a crowbar. Then you get used to it and start wanting more...darn measly 110 top speed.

[LSE Performance]

There are very few racing cars in the world that can't take One at BIR wide open. I don't think that any of them need to hit the brakes hard for One.

I will submit that any car which would have to hit the brakes hard for One would be pretty-much by definition not a competent car for high-speed cornering on any course.

Just to give me some sort of perspective, what MPH do you imagine you would enter One at if you didn't brake?

If you are looking for a place at BIR where you will need to hit the brakes hard, I suggest the entrance to Three. Fortunately, you've been cooling those brakes since Ten.

Honestly I believe I would be scared in my vehicle at those speeds while cornering. I come thru the traps at BIR at a little over 127mph on 92 octane with a horrible pass/traction limited. 4th gear pulls harder in my vehicle and can hit around 195mph at the 9000rpm redline. 5th gear is 200+ land.
On 92 octane Ryan, who has raced at BIR, as well as a few other people that have run at BIR are telling me I would easily have 160mph,92 octane, for turn 1.
They are basing this on what their cars make for power, (mid 200's), compared to the low 500's my vehicle makes on 92 octane. I haven't run the track, just going by what others have been telling me.
If I were out there on a leaded gasoline, or a higher power level, people are telling me that I could break 190mph on the straight, pending exit speed of 10? (I haven't done anything but walked the BIR road course). If I come out of corner 10 at say, 50mph...my car accelerates at about a rate of 10mph per second for 3rd and 4th gear (averaging), this is around 620awhp, the only logs we have at "higher boost levels", now the car is at 720awhp.
This is based that the vehicle should easily trap 145mph next season, and will already been ready or in 4th gear at the end of the traps.
For me, that would be a bit fast for a corner. The car can probably take it, but I am a bit of a "rookie" when it comes to cornering at THOSE speeds.

In the end, I want to get the car up there and see how comfortable I am with it at high speeds on a closed course. thanks steve for the suburban track day suggestions!

Thanks for the advice everyone! I didn't realize that the first corner was capible of supporting 200mph...maybe I would bring a bit of c-16 or 110 to try a "really fast" lap if I got comfortable with the track.

[BS1]

Back in the late 70's I attended a few of the Camel GT races at BIR... Most of the top drivers were going thru corner 1 at 200 / 203 MPH... On exit they would lift going into two then brake hard for corner 3... Danny Ongais blew a tire in the middle of turn one then disappeared in a cloud of dust... The car was destroyed; he was back on course for the next practice session... Peter Gregg won both time I went, 78' and 79'... Great driver...

Great photo, Darryl. I was up there too, and remember Gregg, David Hobbs in the BMW 3.0 CSL (I think), Willy T. Ribbs in a Mustang, Paul Newman and James Brolin (not a doctor, but played one on TV) in Nissans. I don't remember lap times, but the Superbikes were doing sub 1:35s with near-200mph trap speeds a couple of years ago. The lap record is like a 1:24 in a mid-80s CanAm car, I think. It would be cool to see what Alonso in his F1 car could do around there...

[StevenMosley]

I've heard of street cars going through 1 at over 180. I think we were doing 130ish in my folks' 993 tip. There is enough of a bank that nearly any car on decent rubber should be fine through 1. It just comes down to nerves, I can't think of many courses with less run-off room after a mile long straight.

Turn 2 is really the fun one, same radius but no bank...even in my little rental spec racer ford I was puckered so tight they couldn't have removed me from the seaet with a crowbar. Then you get used to it and start wanting more...darn measly 110 top speed.

Never heard of a 180mph street car in one. I have rode with someone doing 160mph and that was about as fast a street car as I have heard of at BIR. Two is corner that I fear the most. Fun course. Can't wait to get in some lapping this year after a year off.

[murph]

I'd love to do an HPDE event for the first time, you guys recommend the above-mentioned corvette events?

[Darryl]

Great photo, Darryl. I was up there too, and remember Gregg, David Hobbs in the BMW 3.0 CSL (I think), Willy T. Ribbs in a Mustang, Paul Newman and James Brolin (not a doctor, but played one on TV) in Nissans.

Yep, David Hobbs in the Bimmer… He signed my official program and was the featured article subject titled “A lap around BIR with David Hobbs”… Ironic, in the race he completed one lap then broke… He’s still my favorite TV race commentator…

Peter Gregg, pole position, David Hobbs, outside row one… Others, the Wittington Brothers, John Paul Sr. and Jr. (just before JP Sr. went to prison for ?)… Paul Newman won his first and I think only race at BIR...

Anyway, sorry for the hijack guys…

Corner 9...

[StevenMosley]

BMW club sucks. No t-top/Converts cars allowed and it would be a waste to drive the 325 up there.

I'm planning to run with Porsche and Corvettes.

[MNbiker]

Josh,

I recommend the Suburban Corvettes days, May 23, Aug 23, and Sept 13. A low key atmosphere and about 5 hours track time.

Steve

Lets make sure everyone has the correct dates, and understands what types of events are offered on the various days.

SCCM and Nordstern PCA require that new drivers at full-track high speed events first attend a recognized training session. Both SCCM and Nordstern PCA have several practice/driver's education days scheduled at BIR this year.

SCCM Practice Days (instructors available): May 24, August 23, September 13.

Nordstern PCA Driver's Ed Sessions: April 27-29, June 8-10, August 3-5, September 28-30.

An SCCA, NASA or similar competition license is also acceptable, as is attendance at a recognized driver's school, such as Skip Barber.

SCCM has their annual "Corvettes do Brainerd" event scheduled for June 1-3, with drivers of all marques welcome, with any of the above driver's training options acceptable for entry.

Please refer to the following club websites for additional information.
http://www.suburbancorvettesofminnesota.com/
http://www.nordstern.org/

-Steve

[MacDubois]

Never heard of a 180mph street car in one. I have rode with someone doing 160mph and that was about as fast a street car as I have heard of at BIR. Two is corner that I fear the most. Fun course. Can't wait to get in some lapping this year after a year off.

I've heard of two...one of the instructors when I was up there said some wealthy gent had his Ferrari up there and had hired an instructor, and it was the instructor that entered it at 180 near the end of the day.
I also played poker at C'bury with a guy who claims to have lived next to a former owner. One day he took the former owners Lambo out and hit 180 at the end of the straight...he did not drive it again. Probably less reliable...but I assume possible.

The times I have lapped it have been through the Donnybrooke racing "school" They are not as cost effective as the BMW or Corvette days (especially if you rent a car) but it was tons of fun for me.

[StevenMosley]

urban legends....

I'm thinking you would need something like a C6R to put down that type of speed coming into turn one.

[Rex Jr]

...David Hobbs in the BMW 3.0 CSL (I think)...

That wouldv'e been a 320i. I'm building a 1:24 version right now and have been trying to source decals to match David Hobbes' Citicorp livery.

[Jeff (The Alignment Guy)]

This would be a good time to bring up something that I stumbled onto one day, but "Jedi" Josh gets the scoop. He started a Trackpedia thread on this forum last month.

http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Brainerd_International_Raceway#Track_Map

[Erik_Gerrits]

This will be on the track with the updates this summer. As for Turn 1, I hit 155 at the end of the straight and carry all that speed into the corner. For reference I was running 1:56s last summer.

[washburn]

Yeah, but you got all that bionic stuff.

[StevenMosley]

This will be on the track with the updates this summer. As for Turn 1, I hit 155 at the end of the straight and carry all that speed into the corner. For reference I was running 1:56s last summer.

What are you running for a car?

A stock C5 Z06 will hit 150 tops and run 1:55 off the showroom floor with a driver running the track for the first time. 1:53 with a better then average track veteran.

Look at the data logs from Trackpedia pretty interesting stuff. This is from 1999 Porsche 996 C2 with coilovers, pagid racing brake pads and Michelin Pilot Cup tires. The driver while not a racer is a very good HPDE driver.
http://www.trackpedia.com/w/images/7/76/BIRGPS155.jpg

[Teddy.B]

There is also the slowpokes.org club. The cost is slightly higher but you pretty much run unrestricted (you can put in as many laps as you can handle) all day. This, together with the fact that they limit entrants means there isn't alot of traffic. pretty good group of guys for the most part, but like anything there are a couple of loose cannons.

[stoooo]

There is also the slowpokes.org club.
Now, that looks like fun. I'm pretty sure a non-turbo Impreza would be the slowest poke out there, though.

Stuart.

[Erik_Gerrits]

What are you running for a car?

A stock C5 Z06 will hit 150 tops and run 1:55 off the showroom floor with a driver running the track for the first time. 1:53 with a better then average track veteran.


I am running a 2001 BMW M Coupe, coilover suspension, RA1s. Its still a street car. I figure is there is a north wind I could get into the 1:55s.

[Chin]

Now, that looks like fun. I'm pretty sure a non-turbo Impreza would be the slowest poke out there, though.

Stuart.

I can speculate that a well driven, NA Impreza will not be the slowest car out there, based on past experience with AARRF. ;)

Christian Banks
#202 DSP
'00 Impreza 2.5RS ('Slow-poke Impreza')

[stoooo]

I can speculate that a well driven, NA Impreza will not be the slowest car out there, based on past experience with AARRF. ;)
Whatever happened to that group ? I found out about them just as they'd been banned from some state owned site in St. Cloud, and they never seem to have managed to get back on track since. Pun intended.

Stuart.

[JKarsten]

I believe they went their seprate ways and some people started something new.

[Teddy.B]

Now, that looks like fun. I'm pretty sure a non-turbo Impreza would be the slowest poke out there, though.

Stuart.

who cares?, it's about fun anyway.

[jungle]

This event will be welcoming all cars and drivers that pass tech. There will be some sort of class room instruction and driving coaches for those who are not card carrying licensed/acredited expirenced drivers. The SCCA has a format similar to that of NASA's HPDE program called PDX. So the PDX people will have time on the track as well as the sanctioned SCCA race cars.

[Fuehrer]

Hi guys, sorry to take so long to get in on the conversation.

We will be holding SCCA sanctioned road races at BIR September 8/9. We will also have Lapping groups for people in street cars, as Aaron mentioned. We will either have SCCA Sanctioned PDX lapping or possibly Snow States Autosports Club (SSAC) sanctioned lapping. The event will look very similar in either case. The race groups will be SCCA sanctioned.

Lapping groups are open to drivers with nearly any level of experience. The cars will need to pass our technical inspection but most any car that can pass a Solo tech is good. Special attention should be paid to having fresh brake fluid and good pads.

This will be the first SCCA sanctioned event at BIR since the spring of 2001.

BIR has given both Memorial Weekend and Labor Day weekend to the Drag racers this year. LoL feels very fortunate to have a weekend date this year and certainly grateful to Jed Copham for the work he is putting into the track for our benefit.

Next year’s schedule should be much easier to coordinate. The BIR “Club Course” will be complete by then and will allow both drag racing and road racing to happen on the same weekend. The full “Donnybrooke Course” will still be used on select weekends.

Lap records – I’m not sure of the overall track record. I did recently find a magazine that covered the 1971 Donnybrooke Can Am race. Denny Hulme qualified on the pole with a 1:26.959, Peter Revson won the race. Jerry Hansen retired with a broken gearbox.

I’m nearly certain that Donahue’s 917/30 would have been faster in the following seasons. I’m not sure how the IMSA, F5000 or later Can Am cars would compare.

IMSA Photos – Darryl, you are frightening me. I’m pretty sure I must have been standing within 10 feet of each of those pictures. Do you have more?

Tom Fuehrer

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[Teddy.B]

Next year’s schedule should be much easier to coordinate. The BIR “Club Course” will be complete by then and will allow both drag racing and road racing to happen on the same weekend. The full “Donnybrooke Course” will still be used on select weekends.

any details or pictures of what this might look like?

[Fuehrer]

any details or pictures of what this might look like?

BIR is still working out final details and I'm sure they will make some type of announcement when the plans are final. The general plan is to have an alternate turn 7 (a 180 to the right) add a couple wiggles and reconnect to the existing course between turn 1 and turn 2.

Tom

[Darryl]

I have allmost the same picture of JP in the pits driving the vette... I need to scan my photos in so the quality is better... The guys I went with were using better camera's, so between all of us we have several hundred pictures... I took the Peter Gregg picture in 78', had it enlarged to a 8x10 for him to sign the next year, as you can see he did... Great guy... Most of the teams had 18 wheel transporters; Gregg did the season with a pickup truck and open trailer... Best driver I've ever seen... Real grassroots... To bad he took his own life at such a young age...

[SUV-ETR]

I have all most the same picture of JP in the pits driving the vette... I need to scan my photos in so the quality is better...

Get yer arse over here. I've got a nice scanner that I hardly use, and we'll get you setup on Flickr.

I can (supposedly) scan straight from slides too, if you have them...

Neal

[Darryl]

^^^ Ok, I'll dig them out... Next work day we'll scan a few...

[StevenMosley]

BIR is still working out final details and I'm sure they will make some type of announcement when the plans are final. The general plan is to have an alternate turn 7 (a 180 to the right) add a couple wiggles and reconnect to the existing course between turn 1 and turn 2.

Tom

7.8.9 are my favorite corners at BIR hopefully they can add some nice challenging wiggles in the new section. Should make for a fun change. I am excited about the possiblity having a high speed and technical track so close by.

[Teddy.B]

7.8.9 are my favorite corners at BIR hopefully they can add some nice challenging wiggles in the new section. Should make for a fun change. I am excited about the possiblity having a high speed and technical track so close by.

Thats kinda my feeling too. I'd be sad to see 8 and 9 go.

[phile]

I can (supposedly) scan straight from slides too, if you have them...

I have 4.6 billion slides I never look at because they are slides. How about I come over and camp at your house for a week with a crate of slides and a stack of blank CDs? :lol:

[SUV-ETR]

I have 4.6 billion slides I never look at because they are slides. How about I come over and camp at your house for a week with a crate of slides and a stack of blank CDs? :lol:

Well, you're certainly welcome to come over...for a little while anyway...but we'll have to discuss the 4.6B/week part. :bigeyes:

Or how about I just loan you the scanner?

[phile]

Well, you're certainly welcome to come over...for a little while anyway...but we'll have to discuss the 4.6B/week part. :bigeyes:

Or how about I just loan you the scanner?
I was probably exagerating for comic effect. (Who me?) I probably don't really have more than 1000 slides, and I am sure they are not all worth digitizing.

I'm not ready to jump into this just now anyway.

Here is one of the few slide shots that have been digitized already:

[Darryl]

I know this is an Autocross site but I really enjoy you pictures and race stories… The picture you’ve taken across the Midwest and BIR are fun to look at… I looked at your flickr pictures last night, great quality and cool stories attached to most… Keeping the MN race history alive is great… Here’s the link to Phil’s pictures…


http://www.flickr.com/groups/59772766@N00/

[phile]

I know this is an Autocross site but I really enjoy you pictures and race stories… The picture you’ve taken across the Midwest and BIR are fun to look at… I looked at your flickr pictures last night, great quality and cool stories attached to most… Keeping the MN race history alive is great… Here’s the link to Phil’s pictures…


http://www.flickr.com/groups/59772766@N00/

That's a link directly to "Autocross Twin Cities", a Flickr group I set up.

This is a place for photographs of autocross or similar events in Minnesota and western Wisconsin.

Photos of Twin Cities autocrossers at any venue are also welcome.

Several of the folks on this forum have contributed photos to it, and you all are welcome to post pix there.

My home site is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier
where you can puruse all my sets.

The old race shotos Darryl speaks of are at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/sets/1729654

[Darryl]

^^^Thanks Phil...

[stoooo]

I was probably exagerating for comic effect. (Who me?) I probably don't really have more than 1000 slides, and I am sure they are not all worth digitizing.

I'm not ready to jump into this just now anyway.

Here is one of the few slide shots that have been digitized already:
I bought one of these for Trish for Xmas...

http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/photo_scanner/scanners/1/storefronts/L1970A%2523B1H

It has a slide and negative scanner built into the lid. Not bad for $99. But you did just get broadband within the last year, so I realise this might be one too many new tricks for the old dog :D

Stuart.

[phile]

I bought one of these for Trish for Xmas...

http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/photo_scanner/scanners/1/storefronts/L1970A%2523B1H

It has a slide and negative scanner built into the lid. Not bad for $99. But you did just get broadband within the last year, so I realise this might be one too many new tricks for the old dog :D

Stuart.

I got an HP all-in-one with my Mac and put the old scanner in the closet. It's a Microtek ScanMaker 4800 with a mickey-mouse little backlighting device for slides and negs. I used it with the PC I was running then, but I found the software pretty inscrutible. I was frustrated enough with it that I never tried the transparency adaptor. I looks like even if I got it working, it would be a pretty slow process to load a slide and scan it.

[stoooo]

I think the best solution I've seen for this is a mounting plate that holds a grid of slides, and just sits on top of the glass. I've seen 3x3 and 3x4 versions, but I seem to think they're device specific. That's a much better option than loading them up one at a time.

I think our scanner will hold 2 or 3 slides in the slot at once.

Stuart.

[Big-Foot]

Some of you may be interested in taking a couple of laps with me in my Factory Five Cobra;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A6hE9NQctU0

We took turn 1 at 140 on the first lap with cold tires and then around 150 the next lap. As you'll read in my comments on the video, I had to drop back due to an eye problem..

Contrary to what some people have said and think - not all cars can go full-bore into Turn-1. A lot depends upon the aero package on the car. The Aero on a Shelby Cobra is absolutely terrible and without the air-dam on the front, the car becomes an airplane at over 135/140..
I know - I flew mine off the exit of Turn 1 last Memorial day. One of the hariest drives you'll ever take. Ended up on the trees destroying the front end. Thank God I was wearing a HANS device and had a good harness / car..

Regards - Randy

http://www.carriagehousecustoms.com

[SUV-ETR]

I flew mine off the exit of Turn 1 last Memorial day. One of the hariest drives you'll ever take. Ended up on the trees destroying the front end. Thank God I was wearing a HANS device and had a good harness / car..

Regards - Randy


Hi Randy! Katie and I met you at the MPLS Auto Show last year. We own the Scirocco that was parked next to your Cobra.

We read about your accident in the LOL newsletter. Absolutely terrifying story. Very glad to hear you are OK, and very sorry to hear that your beautiful Cobra was damaged. Thank you for sharing your experience.

Hopefully we'll make it to BIR this year! Almost certainly not in the Scirocco (even if the brakes didn't overheat just running an autocross, the combo of power vs. lack of high-speed experience would probably still kill me on the first lap), but perhaps in our daily-driver Subaru.

Neal

[CDeutsch]

We read about your accident in the LOL newsletter. Absolutely terrifying story. Very glad to hear you are OK, and very sorry to hear that your beautiful Cobra was damaged. Thank you for sharing your experience.


I still have nightmares from reading that story. Great writing! Glad you're ok, and yes, I'd love a ride in the Cobra. :rockon