Car Class Question?!

[b18aINTEGRA]

I recently picked up a Del Sol. I used to run in STS with my Integra. But being the Del Sol is a 2 seater, is there a different class or do I run STS as well? Car is stock engine wise, just some suspension mods...

Thanks,
Justin

[esper]

It's in STS2, which is just like STS except for 2 seater cars.

[b18aINTEGRA]

Excellent... I now see getting spanked by Miatas... LoL...

Thanks for the help...
Justin

[EWAustin]

It's OK Justin, I drive an MR2 and I plan on getting spanked by Miatas too.

[1hotwoo]

I am very new to this sport...can you tell me what class I would drive in. I know that I would begin in the novice class and school, but what comes after that? I have a 2001 Daewoo Lanos HB...its got an intake and exaust...AITS chip...16x7.5 rims and pirelli pzero tires..oh i also have front and rear strut bars...i know the mods change my class but the car doesnt make more than 130 horsepower..max

thanks

justin

[esper]

I am very new to this sport...can you tell me what class I would drive in. I know that I would begin in the novice class and school, but what comes after that? I have a 2001 Daewoo Lanos HB...its got an intake and exaust...AITS chip...16x7.5 rims and pirelli pzero tires..oh i also have front and rear strut bars...i know the mods change my class but the car doesnt make more than 130 horsepower..max

thanks

justin

With that car yoiu would be best off in SI which is a newcomer class that has no restrictions. You can compete in it until you win it, then you must go to an official class.

Officila class wise that car is probably SM if the chip doesn't have a street touring legal map, which I have no idea if it does or not. Otherwise it could be a STS car.

[shane86]

Officila class wise that car is probably SM if the chip doesn't have a street touring legal map, which I have no idea if it does or not. Otherwise it could be a STS car.

i'm betting that it's sts as i don't belive that that car came with a turbo, and as such, there's nothing you can do to an ECU in an NA car that would make it illegal for STS.

[esper]

i'm betting that it's sts as i don't belive that that car came with a turbo, and as such, there's nothing you can do to an ECU in an NA car that would make it illegal for STS.

I guess you're right, i dont think there is anything it could do to an NA car that would be illegal.

# The engine management system parameters and operations may be modified only via the methods listed below. Any and all modifications must meet or exceed the applicable US DOT emissions standards for the year, make, and model of the car. These allowances also apply to forced induction cars, except that no changes to standard boost levels, intercoolers, or boost controls are permitted. Boost changes indirectly resulting from allowed modifications are permissible, but directly altering or modifying the boost or turbo controls, either mechanically or electronically, is strictly prohibited.

1. Reprogrammed ECU may be used in the standard housing. Traction control parameters may not be altered. Altered engine controllers may not alter boost levels in forced induction engines.
2. Electronic components may be installed inline between an engine's sensors and ECU. These components may alter the signal coming from the sensor in order to affect the ECU's operation of the engine management system. Example: fuel controllers that modify the signal coming from an airflow sensor.
3. Fuel pressure regulators may be replaced in lieu of electronic alterations to the fuel system. It is not permitted to electronically modify the fuel system AND replace a fuel pressure regulator.
4. Ignition timing may be set at any point on factory adjustable distributor ignition systems.
5. VTEC controllers and other devices may be used which alter the timing of factory standard electronic variable valve timing systems.
6. The mass airflow sensor must remain in its approximate original location.

All STS vehicles must comply with the Federal 49-state safety and tailpipe emissions test requirements as a minimum.

[larry200]

The rules for STS as quoted by Zak are correct. You must run the stock ECU in the standard housing. It may be re-programmed. You can install additional electronic components between the engine's sensors and the ECU.

What you cannot do is replace the ECU or any part of the ECU with an aftermarket part. You cannot install additional electronic components after the ECU (such as "piggyback" chips that modify the signal exiting the ECU).

-- Larry B.

[jdlhonda]

The rules for STS as quoted by Zak are correct. You must run the stock ECU in the standard housing. It may be re-programmed. You can install additional electronic components between the engine's sensors and the ECU.

What you cannot do is replace the ECU or any part of the ECU with an aftermarket part. You cannot install additional electronic components after the ECU (such as "piggyback" chips that modify the signal exiting the ECU).

-- Larry B.

There has been significant discussion on this on SCCAForums and Andy Hollis brought up the point being that reprogramming can be interpretted two ways, changing the software or hardware, but regardless it all must stay within the stock ecu housing.

I believe it is somewhere in this thread

http://sccaforums.com/forums/1/144944/ShowThread.aspx#144944

Jason

[EWAustin]

1hotwoo, does AITS = Air Intake Temperature Sensor???