E Brake

[weidnerpaul]

Question...

I can upgrade the Sprite to rear discs*** but since it's a racing setup there is no provision for an e-brake.

Is this legal for AX (and the street?)

Is there a kit I could get to add an e-brake?

Thanks!


*** 1959 technology means the shoes get soaked as the axle seals don't hold, it'll be worse this year with 710's...

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>I can upgrade the Sprite to rear discs*** but since it's a racing setup there is no provision for an e-brake.

No big surprise

>Is this legal for AX

Sure. Prepared category is going to allow it since Production race cars are built this way.

> (and the street?)

Probably not, but 3 out of 10 cars on the street in the Twin Cities don't have working parking brakes anyway. When was the last time a cop checked your parking brake? Collector plates are a de facto pass on most of this stuff.

>Is there a kit I could get to add an e-brake?

Dunno. Somebody probably sells a tiny caliper with its own little pads and cable actuation.

>*** 1959 technology means the shoes get soaked as the axle seals don't hold, it'll be worse this year with 710's

Wasn't any better with my 1966 Midget.

[miata#37]

[QUOTE=weidnerpaul]
Is there a kit I could get to add an e-brake?
QUOTE]

Bienert Motorsports builds an e-brake kit for British cars that consists of two 8" lengths of 2x4 to block one of the wheels. ;-)

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[QUOTE=weidnerpaul]
Is there a kit I could get to add an e-brake?
QUOTE]

Bienert Motorsports builds an e-brake kit for British cars that consists of two 8" lengths of 2x4 to block one of the wheels. ;-)

So, did you used to watch the TV show "City of Angels" with Wayne Rogers?

[washburn]

Paul,

Don't do it. You have lots of brakes on that car, and adding rotational mass will just suck up horsepower.

Sports Car Revolution added a lightweight brake kit to thier project Integra. Disk was lighter, but larger in diameter. After doing some engine stuff, they realized in stock form they were down 12 hp. I was discovered to be the fault of the larger mass of the disks. Go figure.

Besides, that car needs to be driven using as little brakes as possible. :)

[weidnerpaul]

Paul,

Don't do it. You have lots of brakes on that car, and adding rotational mass will just suck up horsepower.

Sports Car Revolution added a lightweight brake kit to thier project Integra. Disk was lighter, but larger in diameter. After doing some engine stuff, they realized in stock form they were down 12 hp. I was discovered to be the fault of the larger mass of the disks. Go figure.

Besides, that car needs to be driven using as little brakes as possible. :)

Pat,
If I take your advice will you help change the saturated brake shoes?
It's gonna happen at least a couple times...

As far as my class it looks like I'm staying in DP, relocating the battery, getting adjustable rear shocks, 7" rims and 710s, if I don't redo the brakes then that'll be it for the upgrades this winter. When thats all done I'll be cornerweighting it at Dan's with his Intercomp scales...

BTW --- Driven with less brakes? Isn't that how you spun it into the weeds at Winona?

Pat driving/spinning it into the weeds->:evil: :o<-Paul in the passenger seat
Paul

[AlexL]

Sports Car Revolution added a lightweight brake kit to thier project Integra. Disk was lighter, but larger in diameter. After doing some engine stuff, they realized in stock form they were down 12 hp. I was discovered to be the fault of the larger mass of the disks. Go figure.
I wonder what I could gain if I took that extra set of rotors I have laying around and had them turned down to the minimum speced in the service manual... :evil:

[weidnerpaul]

[QUOTE=weidnerpaul]
Is there a kit I could get to add an e-brake?
QUOTE]

Bienert Motorsports builds an e-brake kit for British cars that consists of two 8" lengths of 2x4 to block one of the wheels. ;-)

Actually with the Sprite I could get away with one 2x4 and use it to pole vault over the obstruction...

[MNbiker]

[QUOTE=miata#37]

Actually with the Sprite I could get away with one 2x4 and use it to pole vault over the obstruction...

Why not just let the floorboards rot out (in typical British car fashion), and stop Fred Flintstone style? Kinda hard on the driving shoes, though..... :p

[weidnerpaul]

[QUOTE=weidnerpaul]

Why not just let the floorboards rot out (in typical British car fashion), and stop Fred Flintstone style? Kinda hard on the driving shoes, though..... :p

And to think I welcomed you back!

I like the 2x4 idea better cause I can also use it on MAC members that tell obnoxious Brit car jokes:evil:

[DCM]

Paul, the problem is that you have embarassed quite a few drivers/cars with the oxcart suspension, engine design from the 20's, and ancient car design.
So don't let 'em get to ya. :lol:

I crewed [SCCA] for Brakke for 8 years. With his Mk II Midget. G prod.
The axle seals always leak when the wheel is not attached. There are the screws that hold the drum, and the hub tight though. We always had to clean it up before every race.
If the gasket is in place it shouldn't leak much.
Maybe you should let me look at it?
Part of the problem will go away with the double bearing setup.

[JRTritsch]

I wonder what I could gain if I took that extra set of rotors I have laying around and had them turned down to the minimum speced in the service manual... :evil:

A warped rotor?

[weidnerpaul]

Paul, the problem is that you have embarassed quite a few drivers/cars with the oxcart suspension, engine design from the 20's, and ancient car design.
So don't let 'em get to ya. :lol:

I crewed [SCCA] for Brakke for 8 years. With his Mk II Midget. G prod.
The axle seals always leak when the wheel is not attached. There are the screws that hold the drum, and the hub tight though. We always had to clean it up before every race.
If the gasket is in place it shouldn't leak much.
Maybe you should let me look at it?
Part of the problem will go away with the double bearing setup.

Here's hoping the 710's on wider rims make the car even more fun.
I am staying with the rear drums (Yes Pat I listened to you!!!). Thanks for the offer Dwight, I'll see how the double bearing hubs work out first...

[washburn]

Pat driving/spinning it into the weeds->:evil: :o<-Paul in the passenger seat
Paul


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[914 Dave]

What british tractor/trolly/double decker bus/agriculteral implement did your motor come from?


there, did I earn a whup up side the head with that 2 x 4 ?

[wannabfast]

anyone wanna help me rebuild the rear calipers on my x? i sorta want a parking brake right now..

[SaturnRaycer]

anyone wanna help me rebuild the rear calipers on my x? i sorta want a parking brake right now..

See the Bienert Motorsport ad a few posts back!

[wannabfast]

See the Bienert Motorsport ad a few posts back!

sorry, but the x is italian... so that kit wouldnt work for me:p

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[phile]

What british tractor/trolly/double decker bus/agriculteral implement did your motor come from?

For once and for all:
Paul's British car does not contain an engine block shared with a tractor!
My British car does.