Quaife worth it?

[ACRucrazy]

Okie, so for my lovely 97 ACR...
The quaife is about $1100-1200...

So now with that hefty chunk of change.. is it worth it!?

I know the ONE event i went to this year, DCTC, the pegleg made itself oh so known...


I guess OBX just made a knock off, that goes for $550ish... but im one to stay away from lower end stuff if poss...

Discuss. :?

[SmokingTires]

Qualife is top of the line. You couldn't ask for a better LSD. Especially with FWD! That baby will have you wondering what you ever did before it. No more one wheel wonder ;)

I think it is well worth the money if your prepared to run in the class it will put you in (street prepared). It will give you a very good gain in performance, and better distribute the power you spent skipping one wheel previously.

I'd say go for it!

[jdlhonda]

I know a few senior members of the club when I asked what would make me faster a Quaife LSD or a Supercharger for my B16 powered EF Civic, I don't remember hearing one vote for the supercharger they were all for the Quaife though.

I've got a book where I believe it's Andy Hollis and a few other go to an autocross and swap between a LSD equipped tranny and a open diff tranny and it's worth a few seconds, although they have to change their driving style a bit.

Jason

[EWAustin]

MY friend Sam had a Peloquin (same thing as a Quaife, only for a VW) in his Corrado, and he said it actually resulted in power on oversteer.

[ACRucrazy]

Yea no doubt it will be a noticable diff, but while im in there mine as well upgrade the stock clutch that has seen 200+ drag launches...

Damn, this is gonna cost me $1500. :(
LOL

Well, if you guys are saying its worth that much on a lap around the track... why the hell not huh?

[MNbiker]

MY friend Sam had a Peloquin (same thing as a Quaife, only for a VW) in his Corrado, and he said it actually resulted in power on oversteer.

I seriously doubt it. Limited slip diff's are nice, but they aren't magic. Short of using a maneuver like the "Scandinavian Flick", you're not going to get power-on oversteer from a FWD car.

[GodSquadMandrake]

That's quite an expensive upgrade. Have you ever thought of a shim kit maybe as an in-between?

My new tranny is coming equipped with a Peloquin Velocity 80% shim kit. On a VW tranny you can put a bigger washer on the parts that hold the drive flanges on. What it does is put pressure on the differential and it keeps it locked until 120 pounds of pressure will break it loose. You can get a %40 kit which will break at 60 pounds, or the %20 kit which breaks loose at 20 pounds. The stock differential requires 2 pounds of pressure to break loose.

I know it sounds like a strange concept, but apparently works very well. It's more of an on/off switch instead of the smooth power delivery the planetary gears in the quaife will deliver.

The 80% kit cost me $120 installed by the guy who rebuilt my tranny.

http://www.soltec.net/~jpotter/images/4sale/0209a1.jpg

[EWAustin]

I seriously doubt it. Limited slip diff's are nice, but they aren't magic. Short of using a maneuver like the "Scandinavian Flick", you're not going to get power-on oversteer from a FWD car.


Edited and "cliffnotized"

See below for corrected post, and I have a peloquin 80% kit for sale if anyone is interested...

[GodSquadMandrake]

I had a chance to get a ride in it. It really pulled nicely through the corners but didn't oversteer. I just remember him shifting into third across the finish line and the tires squeeling. That's amazing with a 1.8 8v VW engine, he was on Falken Azenis too iirc.

[phile]

I never a chance to ride in his Corrado before it was totalled but another possibility would be that he was just so used to it understeering that when he had the diff installed the lack of power on oversteer made him think that it was actually oversteering.

You might want to carefully read and edit this.

[EWAustin]

Wow, I really screwed that post up... let me try this again.

I never had the chance to ride in his Corrado before it was totalled, but another possibility is that he was so used to the power on understeer that when he had the diff installed the lack/lower level of understeer made him think that it was actually oversteering, when in fact it was handling closer to neutral.

[EWAustin]

I just remember him shifting into third across the finish line and the tires squeeling. That's amazing with a 1.8 8v VW engine


That's what a Kompressor's Kanada Stage 4 G-Lader will do for you.

[murph]

Okie, so for my lovely 97 ACR...
So now with that hefty chunk of change.. is it worth it!?


After my MSP, with a crappy viscous LSD, I'll never buy another open diff car again. If I do, I'll add a couple grand to the loan for a quaiffe. I love being able to "bend" around the cones, it's great.

I thought your SRT-4 was one of the newer ones with the Quaiffe?

[BergeGuy]

Well, I bought my Spec V for two reasons.
#1 Nissan Love
#2 Helical LSD

First car I've autocrossed, so I can't really attest to the difference.


After my MSP, with a crappy viscous LSD, I'll never buy another open diff car again. If I do, I'll add a couple grand to the loan for a quaiffe. I love being able to "bend" around the cones, it's great.

I thought your SRT-4 was one of the newer ones with the Quaiffe?

If I remember correctly, SRT-4 was introduced in 2003 w/o a LSD. Didn't get the Quaife till 2004.

[ps13drifter]

you can ask for something better.... a plate type lsd. something like a kaaz where you can change ramp angles, the tq on the diff, # of plates, plate types. and if you lift one wheel, it will still work. plus they are cheaper.

[MNbiker]

you can ask for something better.... a plate type lsd. something like a kaaz where you can change ramp angles, the tq on the diff, # of plates, plate types. and if you lift one wheel, it will still work. plus they are cheaper.

"Better" in some ways, not in others. Clutch-type diffs typically offer far more adjustability than torque biasing diffs (Quaife, TORSEN), and are more effective in situations where you experience wheel lift. However, they are less efficient and require periodic rebuild. I don't think I'd want the hassle in a daily-driver, but they can be effective for a weekend play vehicle.

[ACRucrazy]

I have a line on a clutch diff from europe, made by Gripper.
Guess its the same unit/guts as used in peugeot, but the case was just made for the neon. There is one complete, and one un assembled unit made so far..

So im checking that out as of now.

Quaife was still developing them for the tranny in the SRT when it was released in 03... :(

[murph]

Quaife was still developing them for the tranny in the SRT when it was released in 03... :(

lol, I thought you had the 04, guess I coulda just read your sig, eh? =]