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C4Autocrosser
12-12-2002, 02:56 PM
STS allowed to run in SP??

I need a little edgamakation on the above proposal. It's my interpretation that the reasoning for this proposal is to allow for larger classes and therefore better competition. Here are my questions...

Q1-Overall, would the STS cars be at an advantage or disadvantage?
I'm thinking disadvantage, but I'm definitely not fully informed since I've never run in either of these groups...

Q2-What are the technical pluses and minuses?
STS is limited to 7.5" wide wheels and 225 sized tires, that's definitely a disadvantage.
STS is allowed those always important drilled and slotted brake rotors, clear advantage to STS right?
What else?

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm just interested in making an informed vote when the time comes.

Dave Morton
COM

StevenMosley
12-12-2002, 03:55 PM
Mr. Morton,

I was wondering the same thing. I have no idea, but the SCCA is going
to be adopting those guidelines.

On another note my brother and I working our butts off trying to talk
the old man into letting us loose with blue skunk? Any ideas?

Mr. Mosley

Dave Keillor
12-12-2002, 04:00 PM
Steve,

Tell Claude that Dave Keillor said to let the boys have some fun!

Dave

StevenMosley
12-12-2002, 05:39 PM
Dave,

Don't worry I will tell him. My brother and I would really love
to get him some good tires for it for Xmas, but those things
are spendy and we don't know if he will let us run it yet. If
it does happen I might have to sell my GTI to pay for rims
and tires. :)

Steven

Josh S #771
12-13-2002, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by StevenMosley


Mr. Morton,

I was wondering the same thing. I have no idea, but the SCCA is going
to be adopting those guidelines.

On another note my brother and I working our butts off trying to talk
the old man into letting us loose with blue skunk? Any ideas?

Mr. Mosley

Pardon my ignorance but what is this "blue skunk" you speak of?

Cobra Replica?
Viper GTS?
Vette RS?

StevenMosley
12-14-2002, 10:44 AM
Josh,

It is a 1996 Corvette Grand Sport that was formly
owned/raced by Ron Marks. It is a fun car that
needs to be raced.

Steven

SaturnRaycer
12-14-2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by C4Autocrosser


STS allowed to run in SP??

I need a little edgamakation on the above proposal. It's my interpretation that the reasoning for this proposal is to allow for larger classes and therefore better competition. Here are my questions...

Q1-Overall, would the STS cars be at an advantage or disadvantage?
I'm thinking disadvantage, but I'm definitely not fully informed since I've never run in either of these groups...

Q2-What are the technical pluses and minuses?
STS is limited to 7.5" wide wheels and 225 sized tires, that's definitely a disadvantage.
STS is allowed those always important drilled and slotted brake rotors, clear advantage to STS right?
What else?

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm just interested in making an informed vote when the time comes.

Dave Morton
COM



Dave, One of the proposed changes was to allow drilled and/or slotted rotors in SP as long as they are the same size as the original equipment. In other words, no 6 piston- 18" Alcons or Brembos. Most people feel that drilled and slotted rotors don't pose a significant enhancement in autocross - but they look cool!

Street Touring and Street Prepared share many rules. As written, the Street Mod allows drilled and slotted rotors, but restricts tires and wheels to 7.5" rim width and 225mm tire section width. It also bans "sticky" tires.

By making the change to drilled and slotted rotors, Street Touring cars can easily move to Street Prepared. It gives them the opportunity to compete in a "classed" class rather than a "heads up" class.

Hope this clarifies things for you.

Rex Schultrich
Met Council Rules Chair.

C4Autocrosser
12-14-2002, 08:51 PM
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Dave, One of the proposed changes was to allow drilled and/or slotted rotors in SP as long as they are the same size as the original equipment. In other words, no 6 piston- 18" Alcons or Brembos. Most people feel that drilled and slotted rotors don't pose a significant enhancement in autocross - but they look cool!

Street Touring and Street Prepared share many rules. As written, the Street Mod allows drilled and slotted rotors, but restricts tires and wheels to 7.5" rim width and 225mm tire section width. It also bans "sticky" tires.

By making the change to drilled and slotted rotors, Street Touring cars can easily move to Street Prepared. It gives them the opportunity to compete in a "classed" class rather than a "heads up" class.

Hope this clarifies things for you.

Rex Schultrich
Met Council Rules Chair.
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Rex-
I think you meant Street Touring above where you stated "Street Mod", right?

Just to clarify...
Is allowing Street Touring to run in Street Prepared one of the '03 MetCouncil proposals?
If so, then we're allowing street tired cars (ST) to run in a sticky tire class (SP). I guess we don't need to worry about the ST cars overdogging the SP cars.

Dave
Thanks for the help everyone

SaturnRaycer
12-15-2002, 06:58 AM
Dave,

Yes I mis-spoke. I meant Street Touring.

SaturnRaycer
12-15-2002, 07:04 AM
If a Street Touring competitor wants to put sticky tires on his car, he competes in SP in the appropriate class, but is still limited to the 7.5" rim width and the 225mm section width.

The proposed change reads: "Cars meeting the requirements of STREET TOURING, using DOT "R" compound tires may compete in their appropriate STREET PREPARED Class. Vehicles may not combine STREET TOURING and STREET PREPARED modifications."

Josh S #771
12-15-2002, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by StevenMosley


Josh,

It is a 1996 Corvette Grand Sport that was formly
owned/raced by Ron Marks. It is a fun car that
needs to be raced.

Steven


Hey Steven,

That is actually one of the cars I was thinking of. I said RS but I meant GS. One of the coolest Vettes IMO. Hope to see it out there with you guys.

Josh