Milwaukee June 20/21

[shane86]

Who's going?
I'm planning on it at this point, but my co-driver has bailed... maybe someone's interested in driving the subaru :p

Plans? Hotels? Etc?

I'm thinking a down Friday night, back Sunday afternoon? I'm kind of the ANTI morning person.

[MNbiker]

Ryan and I are planning on it. We haven't made any hotel plans yet, but I'm sure w'll drive there Friday & return Sunday.

[murph]

Thinking about it, we'll see.

[Darryl]

John and I will be in Milwaukee that weekend... No hotel plans yet...

[porkbone]

Abso-friggin-lutely

Wouldn't miss it. I think team Lucky Lugnut is going to try and work something out with our official hotel and restaurant Negotiator.

[RedlineToy]

I am going to be there. Planning on heading over Friday.

Looking to share room.

[BergeGuy]

I'd like to do some Milwaukee events this year, would this be a good one to start with? I need to register w/ the SCCA first though.

[AlexL]

I'd like to do some Milwaukee events this year, would this be a good one to start with? I need to register w/ the SCCA first though.
Any event would be good to start with. Two day weekends are the way to go down there to maximize what you get out of the trip.

Alex and I are planning on showing up.

[larry200]

Josh and I will be there.

-- Larry "and I'll be there June 6&7 too" B.

[shane86]

i probably would have gone to the June 6/7 too if i hadn't made prior obligation to the paul school.

[Amy]

Alex and I are planning on showing up.

Looks like I'll be there too.

[RedlineToy]

Looking to share a room. Planning on heading over on Friday and leaving Sunday.

Checked Country Inn & Suites and they were full.

Any other good local hotels that you can point me too.

[shane86]

Looking to share a room. Planning on heading over on Friday and leaving Sunday.

Checked Country Inn & Suites and they were full.

Any other good local hotels that you can point me too.
Hey Larry, I'm in for sharing a room..
Cheaper is better in my book... it's pretty much just a "Sleeping Box" for these short trips.

i can try and find something if you'd like... Kyak.com usually has good rates.

EDIT: I found the howard johnson by the airport has some good rates, and seems nice enough to crash in for 2 nights.

[RedlineToy]

Hey Larry, I'm in for sharing a room..
Cheaper is better in my book... it's pretty much just a "Sleeping Box" for these short trips.

i can try and find something if you'd like... Kyak.com usually has good rates.

EDIT: I found the howard johnson by the airport has some good rates, and seems nice enough to crash in for 2 nights.

That works for me Shane. Let me know the address and how much I owe you.

Thanks,

[G. Jay]

I'm planning on making the trip and I believe CJB is too. I'm all for cheap so how many can you get to a room?

[shane86]

The howard Johnson i just booked, says max of 4.
Me and larry are in, 2 floor spots available i guess... unless larry likes to cuddle... i know i don't.
just booked the room at $138 for the weekend.

[speedyham]

The howard Johnson i just booked, says max of 4.
Me and larry are in, 2 floor spots available i guess... unless larry likes to cuddle... i know i don't.
just booked the room at $138 for the weekend.

I would have been in for it if you were up for cuddling. Now I'll just stay home.

J/K

I'll be at Day's in by the airport as Hojo's was booked by the time I called tonight.

[G. Jay]

The howard Johnson i just booked, says max of 4.
Me and larry are in, 2 floor spots available i guess... unless larry likes to cuddle... i know i don't.
just booked the room at $138 for the weekend.

If you're offering I'll take a floor spot and I believe Chris will also. He should chime in shortly.

[shane86]

wow... i must have booked the last room there!

Yeah, Jay, you can grab one, and if chris is in, it should be a pretty cheap stay.

[Andrew]

Hey Shane can you delete a message? Please. :)

[shane86]

Hey Shane can you delete a message? Please. :)

Just Did :D

[washburn]

what's going on that weekend that the rooms are booked?

[shane86]

what's going on that weekend that the rooms are booked?

i just googled it...
Get this... Polish Fest (http://www.polishfest.org/). Seriously.
Lucky Lug Nut better be there!

And to add on top of that, There's a mid size to big nascar race that weekend as well.

http://www.roushracing.com/story/milwaukee-mile-hammers-out-agreement-northern-tool-equipment-entitle-june-20-nascar-race

[MNbiker]

I just booked a room at the DoubleTree in Brookfield for Friday & Saturday at $103/night. Ryan gets the other bed, but we can probably handle one or two more on the floor.

-Steve

p.s. Beware - the hotel taxes in Milwaukee are among the highest I've seen anywhere, so total room charges add up fast.

[miata#37]

I'm in.

[housecat]

If Matt and I were to go to Milwaukee, where should we stay so that our car isn't stolen? I really don't want to sleep in the ITR.

[Darryl]

I just booked a room at the DoubleTree in Brookfield for Friday & Saturday at $103/night. Ryan gets the other bed, but we can probably handle one or two more on the floor.

-Steve

p.s. Beware - the hotel taxes in Milwaukee are among the highest I've seen anywhere, so total room charges add up fast.

I'll take some floor unless we find something else...

[MNbiker]

I'll take some floor unless we find something else...You might be able to negotiate with Ryan for the bed. Just tell him how old you are - that should do it. :p

[shane86]

I'm in.
That mean your crashing on my floor? :?

[the tick]

I'll take some floor unless we find something else...

Is there floor space for 2?

[JKarsten]

If Matt and I were to go to Milwaukee, where should we stay so that our car isn't stolen? I really don't want to sleep in the ITR.

Most people usally stay in Brookfield area a little west of milwaukee and Mr Delays car has never been stolen, Pretty safe area.

[MNbiker]

Is there floor space for 2? We can probably manage that. :)

[2superblus]

Most people usally stay in Brookfield area a little west of milwaukee and Mr Delays car has never been stolen, Pretty safe area.

Brookfield has the lowest crime rate of all the Milwaukee suburbs.

[G. Jay]

That mean your crashing on my floor? :?

I thought so but he found us a room at the Super 6 or some such for $66/night so I guess we're both out. Thanks for the offer though. For the price I wonder if it is in a bad part of town or something.

[CDeutsch]

I thought so but he found us a room at the Super 6 or some such for $66/night so I guess we're both out. Thanks for the offer though. For the price I wonder if it is in a bad part of town or something.

Hmm, hope it's not the place I'm thinking of because that placed sucked. Paper thin walls and yeah I was worried about my car all night (nothing happened thank god).

[MustGoFaster]

You might be able to negotiate with Ryan for the bed. Just tell him how old you are - that should do it. :p

Sorry Darryl, Steve has used up all available pushoverness. If I manage to beat him in the EBS at some bigger events, there will be some more available. :) :( :x 8) :p :evil:

[miata#37]

Hmm, hope it's not the place I'm thinking of because that placed sucked. Paper thin walls and yeah I was worried about my car all night (nothing happened thank god).

You must have standards...

(I've stayed at much scarier places than this one.)

[porkbone]

My wife and kids may come out for this event, so we might be getting our own room, etc.. TBD!

[washburn]

That would be great! Given that, I'll put out an APB on floor space. Please let me know if you have room. Thanks!!

[G. Jay]

That would be great! Given that, I'll put out an APB on floor space. Please let me know if you have room. Thanks!!

Chris and I have some floor at a Hotel 6 we could share. The rest of the space is reserved for the Kooks.:lol:

[speedyham]

That would be great! Given that, I'll put out an APB on floor space. Please let me know if you have room. Thanks!!

If you need it, I'm sure Brian and I could spare some floor space in our room. Probably even be able to get a spare bed rolled in. Let me know.

[JCN]

Trying to talk the wife into going....

[phile]

What?

And miss the Back to the Fifties?

[shane86]

That would be great! Given that, I'll put out an APB on floor space. Please let me know if you have room. Thanks!!

Pat, I've got room for 2 on the floor with larry.
or anyone really...

hell... even the subaru has a spare seat right now :D
Anyone a taker for a co-driver spot?

[porkbone]

My family and I are booked at the Residence Inn Brookfield Friday and Saturday nights.

[housecat]

My family and I are booked at the Residence Inn Brookfield Friday and Saturday nights.

ditto!

[JKarsten]

ditto!

better get those Konis in and get some brake pads!!

[murph]

I'm in, gotta confirm with my codriver...

[JCN]

I think I'm in for Saturday and we're both in for Sunday. Staying in Chicago to spend some time with my folks, though.

[washburn]

Pat, I've got room for 2 on the floor with larry.
or anyone really...

hell... even the subaru has a spare seat right now :D
Anyone a taker for a co-driver spot?

Cool...we'll connect up before the event to get specifics. Thanks!

[housecat]

better get those Konis in and get some brake pads!!

Konis came in the mail yesterday! :ibanana:

WOO HOO!

If we had a garage-mahal we would have had a koni installation get together...

Stupid rain.

[porkbone]

ditto!
SWEET!

I'm so excited you are coming out to Milwaukee!! This should be fun... ;)

[washburn]

Ditto....hopefully you guys can make the CenDiv. It's a National qualifier event, so if you haven't thought of it yet, you need to get that in. We will be doing the Tri Pod Challenge again...more on that later!

[porkbone]

Yes, you definitely should come out for the CenDiv (closest thing we have to a National Tour in the area this year) and partake in the madness and/or carnage known as the TriPod challenge!

[porkbone]

OK, roll call time... here's what I have so far

Pat W.
Chris D.
Shane D.
Steve G.
Ryan E.
John M.
Darryl W.
Larry S.
Alex L.
Alex A.
Larry B.
Josh K.
Amy J.
Jay M.
Chris B.
Sean F.
Brian S.
Matt D.
Nikki D.
Matt M.
Josh B. (?)
Charles K. (?)
Jocelin K. (?)
Ivan A. (?)
Gretchen A. (?)
Neal T. (?)
Katie L. (?)
Steve J. (?)
Harry A. (?)


20 confirmed
9 unconfirmed

[VanFab]

Count me in, as well. :)

I'll be looking for a floor to crash on and a shower to get so-fresh-and-so-clean.

Jake V.

[magicsammy]

we have hotel floor space available - PM me if interested

If you have an air mattress, you are all set - otherwise I can bring mine for you.

[magicsammy]

Barry Stuart and I are coming as well

[VanFab]

we have hotel floor space available - PM me if interested

If you have an air mattress, you are all set - otherwise I can bring mine for you.

Sent you a PM.

[oldtoyota]

How many runs per day? And what is the difference between the CenDiv and MidDiv?

[JKarsten]

How many runs per day? And what is the difference between the CenDiv and MidDiv?

We should get 6 runs a day. This isn't a divisional event, so it doesn't count for Nationals event.

[miata#37]

How many runs per day? And what is the difference between the CenDiv and MidDiv?

The SCCA divides the country up into "divisions". Each "Division" is divided up into "Regions" like "Milwaukee Region", "Des Moines Valley Region", "Iowa Region", etc. Each Region can be compared to an individual club like MAC or COM. The Twin Cities and Milwaukee, and "Iowa Region" are in the Central Division, hence the term CenDiv for their Divisional events. The Midwest Division is mostly south of here and is made up of Des Moines Valley Region, Nebraska Region, and Kansas City Region, to name a few. Their Divisional events are called MidDiv's. There is a "MidDiv" championship event coming up later this year at the Lincoln Nationals site, which happens to be located in the Midwest Division.

[oldtoyota]

If one was picking CenDiv or MidDiv it seems like someone located in the TC area is better off attending the MidDiv this year. Or can't you go if you are not in the region?

[washburn]

You can go to any ones you like. Your probably right, if you're going to do only one Divisional and that will be your Nationals "qualifier" event, you are better off seeing what the surface at Lincoln is like. I like Milwaukee's just because they are way fun!

[murph]

I apologize, I've lost track, who has space available for the 20th/21st weekend? Looks like I will be driving solo for this one.

Also, STX co-drive available if anyone wants it!

[shane86]

I apologize, I've lost track, who has space available for the 20th/21st weekend? Looks like I will be driving solo for this one.

Also, STX co-drive available if anyone wants it!

Murph... if you want to continue with tradition, i've got floor space available.

i'm also rocking the WRX solo.

[murph]

Sounds great on the floor (fold-out?) space, though I think I need to keep running my car, still messing with things. (hoping to have the new seats in by then!)

You should convince Colin he wants a co-drive to mix it up in STX, since Darryl will be in town...

[shane86]

Cool. i think i can get my hands on an aero bed for the weekend, give you something to sleep on instead of dropping the money on cot charges.

meh... i think i'll rock it solo.. keep a few runs off the tires.

[murph]

keep a few runs off the tires.

lol, this is me revelling in not even thinking about the tires. (though I'm bringing some star specs to screw around with on the rear)

[washburn]

Cool. i think i can get my hands on an aero bed for the weekend, give you something to sleep on instead of dropping the money on cot charges.



Hey...you didn't forget about me did you? LOL

[shane86]

Lol... actually kinda did :D
guess i'll try and line up two inflateables, unless you got one to bring

[G. Jay]

Chris and I have floor space at the Hotel 6.

[shane86]

oh don't worry about it... i can get them, or we'll just get cots for ya.

[JCN]

I have a double Aero bed with a slow leak that people are welcome to borrow.

[porkbone]

I am looking for a RIDE HOME to Hudson on Sunday after the event. Any takers?

[G. Jay]

I am looking for a RIDE HOME to Hudson on Sunday after the event. Any takers?

I'll be passing that way as will others I'm sure. I can get you home for sure, what ever works out best for you. I would insist that you share your speed secrets though.:lol:

[SmoothZ]

What's going on in Milwaukee? That's one long drive for a day event...

[porkbone]

What's going on in Milwaukee? That's one long drive for a day event...
Two single day events, one Saturday and one Sunday. Yes, it's a long drive, and it involves staying in a hotel. Some people think we are crazy, but the competition is fierce, with all the best drivers from Milwaukee and Chicago in attendance. Also the site is huge, Miller Park has been called the best site in the midwest... always good for Nationals-style courses. So yes, we're going out there for two single day events, but for some of us, it's well worth it. :D

[Darryl]

What's going on in Milwaukee? That's one long drive for a day event...

Several of us have been going for a few years... Some longer...

[SmoothZ]

Did you say fierce competition and best drivers? I guess I'm staying home then. :)

[MNbiker]

I am looking for a RIDE HOME to Hudson on Sunday after the event. Any takers?
Chris,

I can give you a ride home. I have lots of space in the Armada, and you can even watch a DVD if you're bored. 8)

[gsk8r]

Ivan and I will be a "maybe" right up until the last minute. I hope we can go!

[speedyham]

Chris,

I can give you a ride home. I have lots of space in the Armada, and you can even watch a DVD if you're bored. 8)

With accommodations that nice I'd be trying to get a ride if I didn't have to tow my own car. :D

[porkbone]

Did you say fierce competition and best drivers? I guess I'm staying home then. :)
haha

We have fierce competition and great drivers here in MAC too... the main difference is the site (Miller Park). Unless you're in ST like I am, in which case you go to Milwaukee to run against a National Champion or two. Actually I suppose if you were in AS, ES, or STU you could go run against some national champions too... :D

[porkbone]

Chris,

I can give you a ride home. I have lots of space in the Armada, and you can even watch a DVD if you're bored. 8)

now we're talking!

[MAYcar]

I hope we can go!

What, Ivan's not making you go to work?

[murph]

I am looking for a RIDE HOME to Hudson on Sunday after the event. Any takers?

You're welcome in the couch

[washburn]

Lol... actually kinda did :D
guess i'll try and line up two inflateables, unless you got one to bring

You drunken monkey. I have my own single size air mattress...that's never a problem. I'll hook up as we get closer o the end of the week. Thanks!

[G. Jay]

now we're talking!

Are you dis'n the Sable?;) No DVD but it's got that silky Mercury ride and close to 30 mpg.:lol:

[shane86]

You drunken monkey. I have my own single size air mattress...that's never a problem. I'll hook up as we get closer o the end of the week. Thanks!
Sweet.
Bring yours, and i'll pick one up murph can use. i was planning on buying one so i'm prepared if i wind up on the floor :D

[gsk8r]

What, Ivan's not making you go to work?


:lol: Bwaa haa! :lol:

[SUV-ETR]

Welp, it's looking like the TOO Banana probably won't be recovered from its wounds by this weekend. :(

Anybody want a co-driver or three? Katie won't be making it this weekend, but Ivan, Gretchen, and I are eager to join the party.

Unfortunately, I can't leave until later Friday afternoon. But we may possibly be able to offer a cushy tow vehicle and trailer for one car, at least...

Neal

[JCN]

Welp, it's looking like the TOO Banana probably won't be recovered from its wounds by this weekend. :(

Anybody want a co-driver or three? Katie won't be making it this weekend, but Ivan, Gretchen, and I are eager to join the party.

Unfortunately, I can't leave until later Friday afternoon. But we may possibly be able to offer a cushy tow vehicle and trailer for one car, at least...

Neal

Wanna drive an S2000? :evil:

[JCN]

And what happened to the Banana? :?

[shane86]

neal,
the suby has an empty seat you or ivan are welcome to. the girls could both drive it too if some money can come my way for wear.

i think muphs got an open seat in the couch too. whole gang could play in stx again

[Darryl]

Welp, it's looking like the TOO Banana probably won't be recovered from its wounds by this weekend. :(

Anybody want a co-driver or three? Katie won't be making it this weekend, but Ivan, Gretchen, and I are eager to join the party.

Unfortunately, I can't leave until later Friday afternoon. But we may possibly be able to offer a cushy tow vehicle and trailer for one car, at least...

Neal

STX BMW in Pro...

[the tick]

Welp, it's looking like the TOO Banana probably won't be recovered from its wounds by this weekend. :(

Anybody want a co-driver or three? Katie won't be making it this weekend, but Ivan, Gretchen, and I are eager to join the party.

Unfortunately, I can't leave until later Friday afternoon. But we may possibly be able to offer a cushy tow vehicle and trailer for one car, at least...

Neal

I can't speak for all the parties involved (or ANY for that matter), but I know there will be a few single driver STX cars there from this side of the chedder (cheddar?) curtain, and there's always the pro class for those that have 2 drivers....


Wow, I guess a guy needs to work fast around here...

[murph]

I have a co-drive lined up w/ Bob Clarke, not sure yet which class he'll run. Do they allow more than two per car if they're running PRO?

Speaking of which, where are all the STX folks driving? Going Pro Darryl? Shane? Is there any significant Milwaukee STX competition?

If someone needs a car to run I can definitely kick Bob out, he does have his own car still. =]

[shane86]

at this point, i was thinking STX open, but if i have a co-driver who wants to run in pro (winkwink), i'd be open to that too... still haven't really decided...

[RedlineToy]

Welp, it's looking like the TOO Banana probably won't be recovered from its wounds by this weekend. :(

Anybody want a co-driver or three? Katie won't be making it this weekend, but Ivan, Gretchen, and I are eager to join the party.

Unfortunately, I can't leave until later Friday afternoon. But we may possibly be able to offer a cushy tow vehicle and trailer for one car, at least...

Neal

Nothing fancy, just a Miata, but any of you are more than welcome to co-drive.

[Darryl]

STX is where were running Matt...

Looks like all the STX reply's were at the same time...

[VanFab]

...there's always the pro class for those that have 2 drivers....

Is there an advantage to running Pro for two-driver cars?

[Darryl]

Is there an advantage to running Pro for two-driver cars?

Nope, just another class... Same as running any class with two drivers...

[speedyham]

Welp, it's looking like the TOO Banana probably won't be recovered from its wounds by this weekend. :(

Anybody want a co-driver or three? Katie won't be making it this weekend, but Ivan, Gretchen, and I are eager to join the party.

Unfortunately, I can't leave until later Friday afternoon. But we may possibly be able to offer a cushy tow vehicle and trailer for one car, at least...

Neal

What happened to the TOO banana? Or is it a mystery?

You've got a PM.

[the tick]

...and there's always the pro class for those that have 2 drivers....


Is there an advantage to running Pro for two-driver cars?

More than 2 drivers per class just gets tough to manage. I don't recall what the official SCCA stance is on numbers of drivers in a single car/class it's just easier to toss a couple into the PRO class...

[shane86]

W00T!
Looks like the weather is clearing up for this weekend!
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Milwaukee&state=WI&site=MKX&textField1=43.0633&textField2=-87.9666&e=0

[MNbiker]

More than 2 drivers per class just gets tough to manage. I don't recall what the official SCCA stance is on numbers of drivers in a single car/class it's just easier to toss a couple into the PRO class...Per the 2009 SCCA Solo Rules:


4.4 CAR/DRIVER LIMITS


A. A driver may enter an event only once.

B. A given car may be entered by no more than two drivers in the same class.

[Mike]

Is there any significant Milwaukee STX competition?
=]

I would say we can hold our own. I look foward to some more competition in STX.

[the tick]

I would say we can hold our own. I look foward to some more competition in STX.

Greetings Mike. We're looking froward to playing in your sandbox this weekend. What should we look for (i.e. what are you driving)?

[murph]

I would say we can hold our own. I look foward to some more competition in STX.

haha, prepare for the invasion! On the plus side, there should be a few more trophies to go around...

[AlexL]

Welp, it's looking like the TOO Banana probably won't be recovered from its wounds by this weekend. :(

Anybody want a co-driver or three? Katie won't be making it this weekend, but Ivan, Gretchen, and I are eager to join the party.

Unfortunately, I can't leave until later Friday afternoon. But we may possibly be able to offer a cushy tow vehicle and trailer for one car, at least...

Neal
Would you and Ivan be interested in running the F500 in Pro?

I'd extend the offer to Gretchen too, but I've seen pictures of her in the car. :lol:

[Mike]

Greetings Mike. We're looking froward to playing in your sandbox this weekend. What should we look for (i.e. what are you driving)?

I'll be in the #46 silver wrx - I'm sure most of you that come down have seen it. Usually the only WRX in STX (seem like the only older WRX there lately)


haha, prepare for the invasion! On the plus side, there should be a few more trophies to go around...

Looking foward to the invasion. It looks like you guys have a pretty fun class locally.

[Darryl]

I'll be in the #46 silver wrx - I'm sure most of you that come down have seen it. Usually the only WRX in STX (seem like the only older WRX there lately)



Looking foward to the invasion. It looks like you guys have a pretty fun class locally.

Hey Mike... Look forward to seeing you again on Saturday...

[shane86]

I'll be in the #46 silver wrx - I'm sure most of you that come down have seen it. Usually the only WRX in STX (seem like the only older WRX there lately)

Greetings! it'll be good to get to play with a fellow WRX owner for a change!
I'll be there in 82, my black 04 WRX in STX.

i hope one of us can fend off the Bimmer guys, but i have a feeling after this weekend, you'll have just as much disdain for BMWs as i do. :p

[porkbone]

Is there an advantage to running Pro for two-driver cars?
Not unless you count "getting your ass kicked" as an advantage! haha

[Mike]

Greetings! it'll be good to get to play with a fellow WRX owner for a change!
I'll be there in 82, my black 04 WRX in STX.

i hope one of us can fend off the Bimmer guys, but i have a feeling after this weekend, you'll have just as much disdain for BMWs as i do. :p

I don't think it has anything to do with the BMW's, just the driver's of the BMW's. I think they will just make you drive better- good competition creates better drivers. Try chasing fenter around when he was in his WRX.

[the tick]

Not sure if anyone is mantaining an official head count, but you can add Kerry to the list. She's going to take a shot at the Milwaukee Street tire "R" class!

[porkbone]

Try chasing fenter around when he was in his WRX.
Fenter? That's not fair, he's technically a cyborg. :D

[washburn]

I have a spot on the floor with Shane and the wild bunch. There's 4 of us right now. That will work fine, but I thought if someone else only has 2 in their room, maybe it would make more sense to split up a little. A little less demand on the showers and stuff.

So....anyone have just 2 in their room that wouldn't my a 3rd on the floor. I have my own air mattress. Thanks!!

[G. Jay]

So....anyone have just 2 in their room that wouldn't my a 3rd on the floor. I have my own air mattress. Thanks!!

Chris and I still fit that description AFAIK.

[VanFab]

Not unless you count "getting your ass kicked" as an advantage! haha

LOL. Perhaps by the end of the year I'll feel up to participating in that endeavor, Chris. :rockon

We're staying at the La Quinta with Steve and Barry. Anyone else going to be there? I'm looking forward to a hot tub, a few Wisconsin beers, and some good 'ole car talk.

Jake

EDIT: it appears there's no hot tub listed on the website...blast! Let's change that to standing around in the parking lot drinking a few Wisconsin beers.

[washburn]

Chris and I still fit that description AFAIK.

Where you guys staying?

[AlexL]

Alex and I should have room at the Country Inn if you're interested. We may even be able to upgrade you from the floor to a couch.

[housecat]

What are the chances of us getting pulled over for no front plate? I was going to put it on, but can't find the bracket.

[washburn]

Alex and I should have room at the Country Inn if you're interested. We may even be able to upgrade you from the floor to a couch.

SOLD. I like that location better too. I'll bring the air mattress anyway. What time you planning on getting there?

[washburn]

What are the chances of us getting pulled over for no front plate? I was going to put it on, but can't find the bracket.

Just bring it with. If you get pulled over (not likely) just show it to him and say your waiting for the bracket.

[miata#37]

LOL. Perhaps by the end of the year I'll feel up to participating in that endeavor, Chris. :rockon

We're staying at the La Quinta with Steve and Barry. Anyone else going to be there? I'm looking forward to a hot tub, a few Wisconsin beers, and some good 'ole car talk.

Jake

EDIT: it appears there's no hot tub listed on the website...blast! Let's change that to standing around in the parking lot drinking a few Wisconsin beers.

Gjay and I will be slumming across the street at the "6". There's a decent "pub" next door.

-Chris

[JCN]

What are the chances of us getting pulled over for no front plate? I was going to put it on, but can't find the bracket.

Another idea: The front plate may be bolted directly to the receiver holes in the front bumper (without a bracket). That's the way is it on our Honda. I put some felt in back of the plate at the contact points and it's just an easy on / off with the two bolts. The Wisconsin cops were INSANE last time we went through.

[VanFab]

Gjay and I will be slumming across the street at the "6". There's a decent "pub" next door.

-Chris

Sweet!

See you soon.

[AlexL]

SOLD. I like that location better too. I'll bring the air mattress anyway. What time you planning on getting there?
I'm guessing 9 or 10. I'll be leaving after work.

[G. Jay]

Well, I got my AD08's mounted and gave them a 20 mile scrub/cycle. Hopefully they're scrubbed enough for this weekend. On the road they feel grippy but not as crisp as the narrower and bald RE01's they replaced. We'll see how they handle the course. This will be my first time out on the Chris' Kooks as well.

New tires, new venue, new competition, long drive, I can hardly wait.

[washburn]

New tires, new venue, new competition, long drive, I can hardly wait.

106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, we're wearing sunglasses, and it's night...........hit it!

[the tick]

106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, we're wearing sunglasses, and it's night...........hit it!

...brings a tear to my eye...

[G. Jay]

106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, we're wearing sunglasses, and it's night...........hit it!

Fix the cigarette lighter.

[MAYcar]

...brings a tear to my eye...

You crying now, wait until you see him wheeling the Blues Mobile around the cones!

[SUV-ETR]

Work/life has been absolutely nutty the last few days (looong story), so I apologize for not getting back to any of those who has generously offered a ride.

After possibly not being able to go at all due to other issues, it now looks like I'll be reprising my role with the Wrolson Wracing Team for Saturday. But I still haven't had a chance to catch up with anyone about Sunday yet...


What happened to the TOO banana? Or is it a mystery?

Actually, they are still somewhat of a mystery. We're narrowing one issue down to a cooling problem. The other sounds like a bearing in the drive line. Hopefully just a throw-out bearing (somewhat known problem on the RX8, I think?), but worried it could be in the transmission or rear end...it just kinda echos all around the car under slight load.

Neal

[JCN]

We were driving in the slow lane on I-90 to Milwaukee when a van pulled slowly alongside and started pacing us. I was working on my Minnesota Passive-Aggressive "look straight ahead" when I noticed the passenger with his face pressed against the glass. I turned my head and it was 3/4ths of TOO in the Vannel. Hee hee! I was cracking up. Good times on the highway!

[MAYcar]

OK, it's 9PM, the beer walk has got to be over by now. How about an update?

[murph]

Killer competitive weekend in Milwaukee so far!

Darryl and Ivan separated in STX by *one one thousandth*.

Gretchen and Larry going 1-2 in STS.

Tim Aro leading PAX by like 4 tenths, beating FM.

I finally got my car to rotate, causing Bob Clarke to spin it. :P

13 of us in STX, I'm sitting in 6th, at 50th on PAX. ow. Getting beat by an RSX. I changed rear ride height five times today.

Not sure about the rest, Pat and Chris seem to be chasing unknown setup gremlins, Nikki and Matt seem to be enjoying their first Milwaukee experience.

Red Eye beer is good.

[porkbone]

Red Eye beer is good.

If there is one thing that can be stated with any certainty, this is it. ;)

Lucky Lugnut Racing: we may be driving like sh!t today, but we have a beer sponsor. And they make good beer. Have some!

:D

[Justin (Vision Speedworks)]

Results: http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E4/event4_fin.htm

[awsumb]

I learned alot this weekend, thanks to all you Heidis that offered me helpful advice and hospitality. I'll take a few cases of that red eye beer! What was the second one called?

[G. Jay]

Well that was an experience. It was fun to see so many familiar faces so far away. It made it feel a little like a home event away from home. The operations of the event seemed very familiar as well. They run a tight ship and put out a great product. I see where MAC get’s a lot of its inspiration.

Talk about jumping into the deep end. I convinced Chris that we should enter in the pro class because I wanted to see what it would be like running with a group of National contenders. It turns out I don’t enjoy being pummeled. The Pro class in Milwaukee is a quick crowd to say the least.

I haven’t decided yet how to rate my driving. Chris was pleased with his driving and I was close to his times so I should be pleased. Overall I suppose I drove pretty well, all things considered. Still it was disappointing being beaten so soundly. I’m not so sure I’d insist on Pro class next time.

I got my first taste of the Hankooks. It took me some time to get used to the response being slower than the much narrower tires I was used to. Now they feel like the new normal. They do have serious grip. Sunday morning Chris and I mounted up my new AD08’s and gave them a work out. They actually seem quite similar in feel and maybe performance to the Hankooks. Only the data logger, and soon Chris (the data doctor) Bienert know for sure.

I was introduced to the Saturday night beer walk by Pat. It is a social gathering where you bench race, drink boutique beer and walk the next day’s course. Very cool. Thank you Pat. I don’t really like beer but his was pretty good.

Thank you to the Milwaukee folks for the fine events.

[porkbone]

The joy of "pro" class in Milwaukee... the deep end indeed! I was happy to be 13th out of 19 in Pro... the benefit of the class, for me, is the AM+PM format which MAC has also recently adopted. Basically, I had a decent run in the morning, but in the afternoon my first 2 runs were dirty. Coming into my last run of the day, I absolutely HAD to put down a clean run, and hopefully not too slow. This is where the pro class begins preparing you for national events... not just the competition, but the added pressure. ;)

I'm surprised Sunday results are posted but Saturday's are not... Pat and I did quite poorly on Saturday, a problem we believe is tire-related. We had brand new tires and they didn't seem "ready" to work yet. They got better with every run. Today was much better, as the tires started to come in, and we also borrowed Chris B's Hankooks in the afternoon for testing. Something tells me we are going to be testing tires all season, and maybe forever and ever.

The competition this weekend was fierce. The best indication are the PAX results, which are so stacked it's hard to believe. MAC had a very good showing, with Pat W., Darryl, Mensch, Steve J., Neal making top 20 today. Pretty amazing with the level of competition out there... Matt M. and myself just missed the top 20 but close enough... ;)

I'm tired now and ready for sleep.

Red Eye Beer FTW!

[magicsammy]

great event but frustrating.

We corded 5 and maybe 6 tires and had to go begging for tires.

On Saturday, before we corded I was a couple tenths behind Harry Aro (with Tim Aro coaching him) so I was in the game but then the tires were gone. We limped around in the afternoon runs and did not have any tire left while Harry and Tim had put a on a fresh set. TIm went on to PAX #1 in a CSP car, no small feat.
It was my first really hot day of this summer and I was pretty drained by the end of the day but I did make it back for beer walks and was chided for drinking "imported" beer by one of the locals - Corona :rolleyes:

On Sunday, I put on a couple old spares on the front and Harry was very nice to let me run a couple of his older tires. We had a good morning and I was within a tenth of Harry (but coned it somehow). In the afternoon, it seemed like the grip fell off a bit for both CSP cars and for our 5th and 6th runs our front tires were just starting to cord. My last run I pulled of a pretty good run and pulled within .4 of Harry, not bad considering I was running on cored front tires :). Barry got better and better driving my car and was driving well but he didn't think so.

The PAX battle was very tight, if you picked up a .1 you could jump 5 places on the board

[AlexL]

Well, the car is dead and I don't even have any good results to show for it.

[washburn]

Ouch...what does "dead " mean? Sorry to hear...welcome to Modified! Let us know if there is anything we can do to help.

As Chris said, Saturday was just plain crappy. Just like when I showed up in Chris Deutsch's Evo in new Yoks and sucked it up. Same thing apparently. Between heats on Sat, I did re-check the rear alignment and found that Robert Goulet had come in the middle of the night and messed with it. Had to reset camber and toe. Car felt better, but not good enough. I ended up 29th in index and Chris was top 50 I think. That hurt. Oh yeah, found out how to make Jason Franks instantly do an index winning run: Just put your data-logger in his car!!

Sunday felt much better as the tires were starting to "come in". They seemed much better and apparently did need that scrubbing in to get good. Thanks to Chris B, we got to do another back-to-back test with the Hankooks. Both Chris and I liked these better again, and it allowed me to at least get within a half second of the index winning Jason. (BTW, I did have a huge sideways moment on that run thet Max says cost me 3 tenths...so it could have been closer. I think I could have caught him given more runs.) Much better. So we're back to where we started in terms of how far back we are from the top. More stuff to do though, so we are trying not to get discouraged....we are still in the early learning stages in this car.

Great fun as usual...it was great seeing everyone there!! Matt and Nicky seemed to be enjoying their first trip, as was Jay. Sorry I didn't get to hang with or talk to a lot of you....there's almost too many people to keep up with, and do your competition stuff too! That's why I always enjoyed the gatherings after runs are done and people get cleaned up. Let's us take the time and visit with everyone. I feel bad not being able to stop and talk for awhile when everything is happening and I'm busy trying to get somewhere. I hope we can do that for the CenDiv event...we usually set up "Little Minnesota" and all gather back there at the site for bench racing, fun, and beer walks!! I love hearing everyone's 'stories' of the day. They will be bringing food in for Saturday night, so it's a great opportunity to do this. Depending on whether I bring the motorhome or not, there may some grilling and beer tasting too!!! Gotta fuel up for the Tri Pod Challenge!!!!

[washburn]

BTW....I borrowed someone's camera Sunday to take pics of both the SoloPro cars. In the haste on confusion of getting ready to run, I forgot who's camera it was.

whoever it was, can you please e-mail all the pics I took of those cars? Thanks a lot!!!!!

e-mail to
plw - at - charter - dot - net

[AlexL]

Ouch...what does "dead " mean?
Robert Goulet messed with my engine.

[larry200]

Looking through the Sunday PAX results, I count 32 MAC members. I'm sorry if I missed anyone. And that would be 33, once we include Ivan "I'm not Driven'" Austin (who ran Saturday, but chilled on Sunday). And that's not including honorary Heidi, Tim Aro.

33. Can we get even more at CENDIV or at Nationals?

(And Jay, the bullseye is now on YOU.)

-- Larry "okay, back to my regularly scheduled WORK..." B.

[SUV-ETR]

Huge thanks to Darryl, John, Sean, and Brian for letting me run with them this weekend. It is ALWAYS a pleasure to drive the BMW, and the CEBI has me thinking Prepared again. Also thanks to Todd for loaning us his MaxQ on Sunday...that was really helpful.

Neal

[housecat]

Hey, how about that! I trophied both days, and Nikki trophied on Sunday. That's pretty cool.

Any chance someone could get those for us next time? That would be great.


First trip to Milwaukee was fun, and at the same time, amazingly draining. I think Saturday's scorcher wore me out more than I suspected. The courses were really fun, wide-open, and fast on a nice flat surface. Don't know how well suited the ITR is for my "driving style" where I could have used a little t-o-r-q-u-e low in 2nd gear coming out of a couple of those turns.

What would I like to have changed? Hmm. I would have liked the weekend to be longer so I could have at least fit in Pat's beer walk. Maybe tone down the sun a little on Saturday. Otherwise, great weekend -- we're saving our pennies to do it again soon. It was really cool to see so many MAC people there too -- felt like home. :)

-MattD

[RedlineToy]

Great time in Milwaukee as usual. Thanks to Pat, Chris, Ivan and Gretchen for the great coaching.

My first trophy ever at an autocross event on Saturday :D.

Gretchen, would be happy to share umbrella girl duties with you anytime.

[MNbiker]

Another excellent event. :rockon

A big thanks to Ryan for all his help throughout the weekend. Thanks Darryl, for toughing it out on the floor. ;)

The courses were among the most fun I've driven. Typical Milwaukee layouts, with plenty of fast transitions & big sweepers. Ryan kicked my butt on Saturday, and I returned the favor on Sunday. The car worked flawlessly all weekend, and the latest spring rate change finally got the front/rear balance just right. Our PAX rankings were nothing to write home about, but we were on some pretty well-aged Hoosiers that were far past their prime - especially on Sunday afternoon. Driving on fresh tires at CenDiv's should be amusing. 8)

-Steve

[G. Jay]

Great time in Milwaukee as usual. Thanks to Pat, Chris, Ivan and Gretchen for the great coaching.

My first trophy ever at an autocross event on Saturday :D.

Gretchen, would be happy to share umbrella girl duties with you anytime.

Congrats and great driving Larry. It looked like you and Gretchen were having a lot of fun and a great running battle to boot.

[the tick]

Well I had a BLAST! It's always great fun to have a big crowd from home at the away games, and I can't remember a time when we had more folks show up!

Kerry had a good time throwing the Mustang around (I think I might need to beg a co-drive in that thing again soon), and was making big improvements through out the day.

Darryl, Neal and I played around the BMW (well OK, it was mostly Neal), and it was killer fun as always. I had to settle for 3rd on Saturday (after Darryl "SLAPPED" Ivan back to second by a scathing .001 seconds!), and even though I lead Sunday at the mid day point Darryl found another flyer (that was good for 10th in PAX!) and put me on the trailer, but I stall made 12 in PAX, so it's not like I went home unhappy!

Sadly I was just too busy with everything to be very social, but it sure looked like everyone else was having fun too!

Let's all do it again (and maybe get some more along) in a few weeks! See you all in Eau Claire this weekend!

[VanFab]

Results: http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E4/event4_fin.htm

This confirms my suspicions: that white Evo RS was really moving. I was very impressed.

Thanks, Steve and Barry for giving my codriver and me a place to crash. And thanks to everyone for helping make my first Milwaukee event a great experience. :D

Jake

[gsk8r]

Great time in Milwaukee as usual. Thanks to Pat, Chris, Ivan and Gretchen for the great coaching.

My first trophy ever at an autocross event on Saturday :D.

Gretchen, would be happy to share umbrella girl duties with you anytime.

Right back atchya... and congrats on your first trophy! That was right up there on my list of funnest weekends of driving EVAR. I heart Miatas!

Special thanks to the Aro brothers for their highly technical diagnostic skills on Saturday afternoon. Team Loose Nuts FTW!!! :rockon:lol:

[the tick]

My first trophy ever at an autocross event on Saturday :D.

Gretchen, would be happy to share umbrella girl duties with you anytime.

Way to go LARRY!!! That was way overdue. But the whole umbrella "girl" thing, dude, don't go for the skirt.

[STS-ZX2]

This confirms my suspicions: that white Evo RS was really moving. I was very impressed.

Thanks, Steve and Barry for giving my codriver and me a place to crash. And thanks to everyone for helping make my first Milwaukee event a great experience. :D

Jake

Happy to see another well-prepared non SpecCivic ST car--please come back often!

Had I not coned away my 6th run, I'd have been in 3rd--just a few ticks off of Mike. Knowing your/his car's history--and knowing I have less than 100 runs in the Escort, makes me feel fairly good about where we are at this point. This was the first decent-weather event in the ZX2 with a setup that actually gave me some confidence in the back end of the car (only swapped ends once :D). Our forward bite is still lacking--but we really did not know it was as bad as it is because the back was always wanting to pass the front until now. Such is life when you try and do something off the beaten path--still lots of fun for sure!

[BS1]

BTW....I borrowed someone's camera Sunday to take pics of both the SoloPro cars. In the haste on confusion of getting ready to run, I forgot who's camera it was.

whoever it was, can you please e-mail all the pics I took of those cars? Thanks a lot!!!!!

e-mail to
plw - at - charter - dot - net

Um, that was mine. I have about 2g of photos and videos, so I'll look for a free site to share them (Alex?). I can email you compressed versions of your shots.

[Darryl]

Great weekend, great Fastmore courses and great weather… Fun competition in STX... The goal was to figure out a tire/wheel combo, we did…

Thank you Neal for jumping in the car and sorting out a few things for us on Saturday…

John made some good shock adjustments Sunday afternoon… Really settled the ars down and helped with turn in… Car was golden… John gets faster in the car every event… Matt’s getting sorted out and Josh was MIA…

Not sure why Saturday’s results aren’t posted but Jones put it down on Saturday, fast index MAC guy and Tim Aro was number 1 overall… I think Tim has a really good shot at it this year… Steve M. and Harry had it out for second… I think Harry was 16th in index…

Chris B. was flying on Saturday, 21st in index, solid…

Fun seeing new MN’ers in Milwaukee… So many it was hard to keep up with everyone…

Looking forward to Lincoln in a few weeks…

We’ll do the big grill out Saturday night at the Div Pat…

[RedlineToy]

Way to go LARRY!!! That was way overdue. But the whole umbrella "girl" thing, dude, don't go for the skirt.


No skirt for me if you will just keep your shirt on, it was blinding out there on course. :lol:

[the tick]

No skirt for me if you will just keep your shirt on, it was blinding out there on course. :lol:

.... fair enough, sorry about that...

[Darryl]

No skirt for me if you will just keep your shirt on, it was blinding out there on course. :lol:

AND IN THE CAR JOHN... Anyone see the Movie Along came Polly, remember the 2 on 2 basketball game...

[washburn]

Um, that was mine. I have about 2g of photos and videos, so I'll look for a free site to share them (Alex?). I can email you compressed versions of your shots.

Cool...that would be nice.

plw -at- charter -dot- net

Thanks again for the use of the camera!

[murph]

Barry, get that stuff up on Flickr or picasa, stat!

[marks_lude]

Results: http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E4/event4_fin.htm

How come there is an A-Stock Evo in 'rear drive street tire'? (11th finish)

[porkbone]

I ended up 29th in index and Chris was top 50 I think. That hurt.

Don't sell yourself short... you were 28th! ;) Yeah I was 36th on Saturday. I found that the results are out there, just not linked from the main solo results page. check it out:

Saturday
Results by class
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E3/event3_fin.htm

Results by Index
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E3/event3_pax.htm

Results PRO
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E3/ProEvent3.pdf

Sunday
Results by class
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E4/event4_fin.htm

Results by Index
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E4/event4_pax.htm

Results PRO
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/2009/E4/ProEvent4.pdf

[2superblus]

How come there is an A-Stock Evo in 'rear drive street tire'? (11th finish)

He was driving the S2K CR and did not change his car that was listed.

[JCN]

So a point of clarification for my own knowledge:

I never noticed before, but T-class (and in Milwaukee A-F-R classes) get PAX'd on their sticky tire multiplier, correct?

So people who PAX at number X, might actually be a lot better if they got indexed with sticky tires while on street tires and vice-versa if people PAX'd #Y, they actually could be Y+20 since some really excellent street tire drivers did proportionally better.

Is that correct? Is there a street tire multiplier for PAX?

For example: Alex Moss in an 08 CR did very well driving in R-AS. He's listed at 77th in PAX with the standard AS 0.843 multiplier. If you subtract the 2 seconds that Hoosiers would have saved him, you get a corrected time of 46.27 which would put him in approximate 29th PAX spot.

And conversely, Tom Weaver in ES was PAXed in 33rd spot... would actually be bumped lower by as many as 6-10 people if you correct the top drivers in the street tire classes.

I was really impressed by Todd Cochran's AS driving this weekend and wondered why I hadn't noticed him at the top of the leaderboard in MAC standings... in retrospect it's the "PAX penalty" of the uncorrected street tire that kept him off the radar (and maybe made me think I was doing better than I was... by inflating my MAC mid-PAX results).

Just a thought.

Nice driving, Todd, Neal, Ivan, John M., Darryl, Chris B., G. Jay! Lots of fun seeing the MAC crew there! Congrats on the trophies Nikki, Matt, Larry, and Gretchen! Congrats to my favorite co-driver, Jocelin who kicked my butt on the last run!

[porkbone]

Is that correct? Is there a street tire multiplier for PAX?
Can of worms!

http://hazel8500.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/can-o-worms.gif

No, there is no street tire multiplier. You say 2 seconds for Hoosiers, but is that true? Do we have any proof, and does that same 2 second penalty work for all classes? I don't want to get into it, but this topic has been discussed ad nauseam on a number of online forums.

Yes, the street tire classes are indexed against one another appropriately based on their class, (once you get over the fact that PAX/RTP index assumes a 100% prepped car). And it's true that a guy like Chris Fenter, who was on street tires in "R" class, normally would be in the top 10 PAX if he was on race rubber. But he wasn't on race rubber, and so he wasn't in the top 10.

To quote a wiseman named Darryl Wrolson, "it is what it is..."

[STS-ZX2]

To quote a wiseman named Darryl Wrolson, "it is what it is..."

Funny, I always thought it was "wiseass"...Hmmmm.

[housecat]

Oh, BTW -- Thanks Brookfield, WI for having a low crime rate -- we didn't have the car stolen once all weekend!

(Though, driving through the multiple middle-of-the-street drug deals north of Miller Park on the way home from Wendy's was a little exhilarating.)

[shane86]

we gotta build you guys in some anti-theft gear.
battery cut off, constant on horn switch, fuel pump cut off, there's all kinds of good cheapy anti theft stuff for hondas

[porkbone]

we gotta build you guys in some anti-theft gear.
battery cut off, constant on horn switch, fuel pump cut off, there's all kinds of good cheapy anti theft stuff for hondas
Sorry man, this stuff doesn't work on a TYPE-R. People who steal Type-Rs usually use flatbeds.

[VanFab]

Happy to see another well-prepared non SpecCivic ST car--please come back often!

Had I not coned away my 6th run, I'd have been in 3rd--just a few ticks off of Mike. Knowing your/his car's history--and knowing I have less than 100 runs in the Escort, makes me feel fairly good about where we are at this point. This was the first decent-weather event in the ZX2 with a setup that actually gave me some confidence in the back end of the car (only swapped ends once :D). Our forward bite is still lacking--but we really did not know it was as bad as it is because the back was always wanting to pass the front until now. Such is life when you try and do something off the beaten path--still lots of fun for sure!

Thanks, Erik.

I was pretty impressed by what you did in your car, especially considering the limited amount of time you've had to get it dialed in.

Now go get yourself some Toyos to improve that forward bite. :)
http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO_Proxes_R1R_225_45R16_89W_P4994C885.cfm

[BS1]

Here's a link to the photos and vids:

http://bstuart99.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album01


Not exactly pro quality, but better than nothing.

[shane86]

Well, i had a great time this weekend!
i've been holding off posting, as i had my new little camcorder in the back, and i wanted to wait until i had them edited and uploaded (or atleast a few of them)

Saturday, Ivan was left without a ride as the Banana seems to need to be refrigerated properly... so i offered Team Stiggles pride and joy, the WRX. Ivan seemed to take to the WRX like a fish takes to bacon. wait. is that right? anyway, he drove the wheels of the damn thing, and i felt like a proud papa! after 1 run, ivan managed to put the car into the lead, and fought back and forth with daryl and john for the lead. Daryl managed to take it... by one onethousandth of a second. that's .001 seconds.

The car can do it, i can't..... yet. and i haven't felt that confidence about the car ever. i really appreciate ivan hot shoeing it, and really showing me what she can do. plus, he's pretty good at sandwich delivery.

I on the other hand, managed to put the same car into 7th with a 61.854, .425 seconds behind Murph.

Sunday, ivan decided to take it easy, so i ran the scooby alone. i felt alot like i was playing some chicken moves through some areas, carring too much speed here, braking too late there... but everything i did, found it kept sticking in the slalom... that was where i managed to make up time. i brought her into 7th out of 16 with a 57.413, .362 out of 6th.

So, how about some videos?
The camera is a Kodak Zi6. shoots in beautiful 720p and 60fps... the video is awesome.

Youtube links for Saturday (highly suggest clicking HD)
My Fastest Run - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQqAPkUtk3M
Ivan's Fastest Run - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcmxso9F4l8

Vimeo Link for Sunday (better quality than youtube, but can only upload one hd vid per week)
My Fastest Run - http://www.vimeo.com/5295845

[VanFab]

Thanks for all of the great photos, Barry!

I've never seen it lift the inside rear quite like this:
http://bstuart99.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=p1010303

Must have been Mike using that left foot braking (I'm too much of an amateur for that funny business you fast guys use).

[JKarsten]

Thanks for the pictures and video of me driving, I looked kinda fast.

[JCN]

Andy Seipos has pictures up in his gallery:
http://aseipos.zenfolio.com/f979496815

[VanFab]

Andy Seipos has pictures up in his gallery:
http://aseipos.zenfolio.com/f979496815

Wow, beautiful photos.

[G. Jay]

Is there a street tire multiplier for PAX?

No extra PAX for street tires so the PAX is only reasonable within the street tire group. It is a little suspect even then because the delta between r-comp and street tires may not really be the same for all classes.



Nice driving, Todd, Neal, Ivan, John M., Darryl, Chris B., G. Jay! Lots of fun seeing the MAC crew there! Congrats on the trophies Nikki, Matt, Larry, and Gretchen! Congrats to my favorite co-driver, Jocelin who kicked my butt on the last run!

Thanks Charles, I didn't feel so quick at the time but I didn't realize the altered world I'd entered in the Milwaukee Pro class. I need to manage my expectations better (emotions too). Chris drove great and had me covered all weekend. At the rate he's been improving his driving and the car he's going to be the one insisting on Pro class.

It looked like you and Jocelin were driving well and having a good running battle in a very tough and huge R class. I only saw a couple of runs of yours but I did see the first reverse Rockford finish ever.:rockon That was worth the price of entry. I was surprised to see you Sunday only, too bad you couldn't make it on Saturday too.

[2superblus]

So a point of clarification for my own knowledge:

I never noticed before, but T-class (and in Milwaukee A-F-R classes) get PAX'd on their sticky tire multiplier, correct?

So people who PAX at number X, might actually be a lot better if they got indexed with sticky tires while on street tires and vice-versa if people PAX'd #Y, they actually could be Y+20 since some really excellent street tire drivers did proportionally better.

Is that correct? Is there a street tire multiplier for PAX?

For example: Alex Moss in an 08 CR did very well driving in R-AS. He's listed at 77th in PAX with the standard AS 0.843 multiplier. If you subtract the 2 seconds that Hoosiers would have saved him, you get a corrected time of 46.27 which would put him in approximate 29th PAX spot.

And conversely, Tom Weaver in ES was PAXed in 33rd spot... would actually be bumped lower by as many as 6-10 people if you correct the top drivers in the street tire classes.

I was really impressed by Todd Cochran's AS driving this weekend and wondered why I hadn't noticed him at the top of the leaderboard in MAC standings... in retrospect it's the "PAX penalty" of the uncorrected street tire that kept him off the radar (and maybe made me think I was doing better than I was... by inflating my MAC mid-PAX results).

Just a thought.

Nice driving, Todd, Neal, Ivan, John M., Darryl, Chris B., G. Jay! Lots of fun seeing the MAC crew there! Congrats on the trophies Nikki, Matt, Larry, and Gretchen! Congrats to my favorite co-driver, Jocelin who kicked my butt on the last run!

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If you read here RTP.Rick aka Rick Ruth the Pax Man does make a comment about what you are asking about.

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Great pics from Andy as usual. Too bad he was running in my heat!

I need to start getting some super Pro shots of the Red Eye/Lucky Lugnyt Racing civic for my sponsors. Anyone skilled in the ways of picture taking going to be in Eau Claire Sunday?

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Thanks Charles, I didn't feel so quick at the time but I didn't realize the altered world I'd entered in the Milwaukee Pro class. I need to manage my expectations better (emotions too). Chris drove great and had me covered all weekend. At the rate he's been improving his driving and the car he's going to be the one insisting on Pro class.

I think you did very well for your first time in Milwaukee. Getting to know the site offers a little more of a "home course" advantage as elements wind up being used and reused. There are parts of the lot that are notoriously less grippy than others (tent pole hole section in the near left).


It looked like you and Jocelin were driving well and having a good running battle in a very tough and huge R class. I only saw a couple of runs of yours but I did see the first reverse Rockford finish ever.:rockon That was worth the price of entry. I was surprised to see you Sunday only, too bad you couldn't make it on Saturday too.

We're trying something new to improve our driving. Some street tire action to punish us when we're being unsmooth. With such great MAC talent on street tires, we're able to make better apples-to-apples comparisons to highlight our problem areas. It's taking us a little bit of seat time to get used to the difference in tire compound and width, though. I misjudged off-throttle turn in a few places and did a lot of "double-steering." I know Jocelin had trouble gauging braking zones on a few places. I really wish MAC had more ridealong capability, that's one of my favorite things about Milwaukee region events.

I really wanted to run on Saturday, but Jocelin had things to do in Chicago and we hung out with my folks that day. Trying to strike a better balance autocrossing this year. :rockon